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Re: Show HN: Monolisa v3 – a typeface for developers and creatives

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Post by Chu4eeno »

bayindirh wrote: post #70
efficax wrote: post #40

$149 for a font for personal computer use is kind of steep! I would pay $20 for this, but the value has to be pretty high to pay $149 when there's a huge selection of free fonts on nerdfonts.com, of which many are pretty great. Like what does this font really offer that makes it so pricey?

I have bought Berkeley Mono back in the day, and I use it everywhere, everyday. One of the best purchases I did ever. Free fonts are nice, but some paid options are polished to a different level. See: https://usgraphics.com/products/berkeley-mono

There's plenty of "free" very well made fonts, though Intel didn't get Intel One Mono for free, nor did Google get Noto for free.

Re: Show HN: Monolisa v3 – a typeface for developers and creatives

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Post by Chu4eeno »

piskov wrote: post #51
efficax wrote: post #40

$149 for a font for personal computer use is kind of steep! I would pay $20 for this, but the value has to be pretty high to pay $149 when there's a huge selection of free fonts on nerdfonts.com, of which many are pretty great. Like what does this font really offer that makes it so pricey?

I bought Operator Mono circa 2020 for even more — still rocking it today. Seems like a no big deal for a thing you keep looking at for many hours every day. kiliman/operator-mono-lig on github patches it to support ligatures. And I wish Hoefler guys added support for more languages Video and some code screenshots: https://typography.com/blog/introducing-operator Character set: https://typography.com/fonts/operator/ov…

I get a redirect loop on both of your links.

Re: Show HN: Monolisa v3 – a typeface for developers and creatives

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Post by Chu4eeno »

kristianp wrote: post #60
cyphar wrote: post #8

I'm more of a bitmap font guy (at least, as long as my eyes continue to forgive me for it) but I'm always interested to see what other fonts there are around. It does look quite nice. I must admit when I ran across the second real paragraph from the main page, I couldn't help but only think more and more about how we will look back on marketing copy like this in a decade from now: AI assistants produce both code and…

I've taken recently to running bitmap Terminus (not the ttf) in my terminals. I find the lack of blurred edges to be extremely refreshing. My laptop has a pixel density of about 162 ppi, so normal fonts, especially in chrome on linux don't make me happy. Do you recommend any specific bitmap coding fonts?

Unless you're stuck on an annoying platform you could try adjusting the hinting.

Contrary to Apple's insistence, hidpi doesn't mean blurring the edges of fonts is okay.

Re: Show HN: Monolisa v3 – a typeface for developers and creatives

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Post by xyzzy_plugh »

mistercow wrote: post #66
microflash wrote: post #18

Looks interesting. > The Licensee may not modify, translate, adapt, alter, decompile, disassemble, decrypt, reverse engineer, change or alter the embedding bits, the font name, legal notices contained in the font software, nor seek to discover the source code of the font data, convert into another font format, create bitmaps, add or subtract any glyphs, symbols or accents, or any other derivative works based on the e…

IANAL, but isn't most of that unenforceable in the US? Typefaces have their own weird place in IP law which is different from copyright.

IANAL but the distributed files are software and I do not interpret that section to be unenforceable. If you agree to the EULA then subset the font and serve it on your website it's pretty straightforward to enforce.

AIUI in the US you can't do much to protect the visual shape of the font e.g. I can hand-trace your letters and make my own font and do whatever I want without issue.

Re: Show HN: Monolisa v3 – a typeface for developers and creatives

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Post by cyphar »

kristianp wrote: post #60
cyphar wrote: post #8

I'm more of a bitmap font guy (at least, as long as my eyes continue to forgive me for it) but I'm always interested to see what other fonts there are around. It does look quite nice. I must admit when I ran across the second real paragraph from the main page, I couldn't help but only think more and more about how we will look back on marketing copy like this in a decade from now: AI assistants produce both code and…

I've taken recently to running bitmap Terminus (not the ttf) in my terminals. I find the lack of blurred edges to be extremely refreshing. My laptop has a pixel density of about 162 ppi, so normal fonts, especially in chrome on linux don't make me happy. Do you recommend any specific bitmap coding fonts?

I use Cozette[1] at the moment, which is basically a modern form of Dina (the first bitmap font I started with ~15 years ago now). It is pretty nice, though they recently started adding some kanji and I don't particularly like the style they went with (maybe I should send a PR to support more and fix up the existing styles)...

[1]: https://github.com/the-moonwitch/Cozette

Re: Show HN: Monolisa v3 – a typeface for developers and creatives

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Post by bayindirh »

Chu4eeno wrote: post #71
bayindirh wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have bought Berkeley Mono back in the day, and I use it everywhere, everyday. One of the best purchases I did ever. Free fonts are nice, but some paid options are polished to a different level. See: https://usgraphics.com/products/berkeley-mono

There's plenty of "free" very well made fonts, though Intel didn't get Intel One Mono for free, nor did Google get Noto for free.

I used Hack, Iosevka, Adobe's Source Code Pro and more for a very long time and was very happy about all.

I also use Inter heavily in my Obsidian setup, and I'm very happy about it, too.

However, sometimes one item speaks to you more than the others. It's not about free vs. paid. It's more about finding something more useful than others, and the difference justifies the price tag on it.

In that sense, Monolisa is not my cup of tea design-wise, but I have friends who absolutely love it, and I understand them.

Re: Show HN: Monolisa v3 – a typeface for developers and creatives

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Post by FaceType »

oneseven wrote: post #41

I can't figure this out from the website, does the text variant have tabular figures?

Activating stylistic set 01 (= script variant) does not effect the look of figures. You can try it out here on our website: https://www.monolisa.dev/tester/code

Re: Show HN: Monolisa v3 – a typeface for developers and creatives

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Post by FaceType »

MoonWalk wrote: post #52

The "code" version: Capital "i" has crossbars? CHECK Zero is distinguishable from O? CHECK "Text" version: Capital "i" has crossbars? NOPE, so no dice. I hate fonts that don't have a properly-formed capital "i".

In sans-serif text typefaces capital ‘I’ is traditionally a simple vertical rectangle without serifs. But we were estimating some folks would miss those serifs so if you want to have a ‘properly-formed’ capital ‘I’ just activate stylistic set 02 (ss02, = ‘Alt I J i j r’). To see what this looks like, take a look here: https://www.monolisa.dev/tester/text
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