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Re: Show HN: Explore color palettes inspired by 3000 master painter artworks

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Post by senexex »

S0und wrote: post #10

As an "expert viewer" of Baumgartner Restoration, this site usefulness is questionable. If you look at those color palettes, most of them brownish that is because of dirty & old oxidised varnish. These are not the intended look of these paintings. So these color palettes has nothing to do with those 3000 masters. https://youtube.com/@baumgartnerrestoration

An additional problem is that it looks like the colors are from the intersection of 3 random paintings. The masters already picked their colors on one painting. If you randomly average them it is like a kid mixing finger paints. You aren't going to get a better color scheme from 3 random masterworks.

Re: Show HN: Explore color palettes inspired by 3000 master painter artworks

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Post by ouli »

woolion wrote: post #67

Not sure about the use for it, is it supposed to be design or painting? I've thought about making this for a long time to help me with painting, but in that case I think to be useful you need a bit more ways to see the data -- mostly, the thing that is the most important is value. So to get something useful out of it you need a distribution of the hues conditioned value. And for design, the problem is a bit different…

The intention of this site is to showcase time tested palettes (with empirical evidence) of greatest visual artists instead of listing endless sea of neon bright color palettes we see everywhere in popular palette sites like coolors or colorhunt. Consider it using like a color grading tool for you art/design project similar to cinematographers who use contain color combinations to bring emotions, mood to the movie shots to tell the story in more visually captivating fashion.

Re: Show HN: Explore color palettes inspired by 3000 master painter artworks

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Post by ouli »

mock-possum wrote: post #61
ouli wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most contemporary artists works are still under copyrght laws.

The colours they used aren’t

I still need to access and download such copyrighted images in order to derive palette colors and showcase sample images for those palettes.

Re: Show HN: Explore color palettes inspired by 3000 master painter artworks

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Post by ouli »

senexex wrote: post #71
S0und wrote: post #10

As an "expert viewer" of Baumgartner Restoration, this site usefulness is questionable. If you look at those color palettes, most of them brownish that is because of dirty & old oxidised varnish. These are not the intended look of these paintings. So these color palettes has nothing to do with those 3000 masters. https://youtube.com/@baumgartnerrestoration

An additional problem is that it looks like the colors are from the intersection of 3 random paintings. The masters already picked their colors on one painting. If you randomly average them it is like a kid mixing finger paints. You aren't going to get a better color scheme from 3 random masterworks.

Actually I group artworks based on artist/ganre/style similar color palette and showcase up to 3 images from that group.

Re: Show HN: Explore color palettes inspired by 3000 master painter artworks

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Post by eudamoniac »

assimpleaspossi wrote: post #70
woolion wrote: post #67

Not sure about the use for it, is it supposed to be design or painting? I've thought about making this for a long time to help me with painting, but in that case I think to be useful you need a bit more ways to see the data -- mostly, the thing that is the most important is value. So to get something useful out of it you need a distribution of the hues conditioned value. And for design, the problem is a bit different…

I see these palettes shown everywhere and see no value in them whatsoever. As a designer or painter, one needs to develop their own palette for what they are trying to create. So what difference does it make what someone else used no matter how famous? I just don't get it.

Kind of a stupid comment tbh. Taste requires breadth of experience. "As a creative, one needs to develop their own for what they are trying to create. So what is the value in looking at how other creative things were made?"

Re: Show HN: Explore color palettes inspired by 3000 master painter artworks

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Post by woolion »

eudamoniac wrote: post #76
assimpleaspossi wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see these palettes shown everywhere and see no value in them whatsoever. As a designer or painter, one needs to develop their own palette for what they are trying to create. So what difference does it make what someone else used no matter how famous? I just don't get it.

Kind of a stupid comment tbh. Taste requires breadth of experience. "As a creative, one needs to develop their own for what they are trying to create. So what is the value in looking at how other creative things were made?"

I don't think the question is stupid, because I kind of consider that to make use of a palette like this, you still need a lot of skills that if you do have, you can probably as easily do your own palette directly from a painting by yourself.

>As a creative, one needs to develop their own for what they are trying to create. So what is the value in looking at how other creative things were made?

That's not the how of the process at all, that's the end result. The "how" for traditional art is completely different; it is taking pigments as a base rather than light, and the algebra of composition is not the same either.

Re: Show HN: Explore color palettes inspired by 3000 master painter artworks

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Post by echoangle »

DeathArrow wrote: post #59
S0und wrote: post #10

As an "expert viewer" of Baumgartner Restoration, this site usefulness is questionable. If you look at those color palettes, most of them brownish that is because of dirty & old oxidised varnish. These are not the intended look of these paintings. So these color palettes has nothing to do with those 3000 masters. https://youtube.com/@baumgartnerrestoration

So we can use AI or even deterministic algorithms to recover the original palette.

Is that a question? Because that doesn't follow at all. 2 different pigments with different colors could fade to the same color and be indistinguishable from looking at them now, without analyzing the chemical composition.

Re: Show HN: Explore color palettes inspired by 3000 master painter artworks

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Post by mistrial9 »

feedback -- painting and screen luminescence are fundamentally different. Secondly, the chase after "most famous" seems to show the motivation here.

AI generated arts, IMHO, is an economic F-U to the people who spend real years of their lives to train in arts, and to the people who spend more time after that to teach.

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