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Re: Show HN: Poppy – A simple app to stay intentional with relationships

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Post by red-iron-pine »

lelanthran wrote: post #54
nullbyte808 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you know its AI? Who cares, sounds fine too me.

Well, if someone can't bother to write something, why should anyone bother to read it?

that was one of the big reasons I dropped FB and Insta.

Low effort interactions just aren't worth it. IF it's not worth writing at least 3 sentences chances are I don't care - and won't ever care.

Like yeah it's cool to see what some guy I knew in high school is up to, but ultimately that connection ain't making my life better.

HN is an exception in the signal to noise ratio is far higher than a lot of other social media - though the bots are hitting it hard these days.

Re: Show HN: Poppy – A simple app to stay intentional with relationships

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Post by kstrauser »

Thanks so much for this! It’s exactly the kind of think I’ve looked for many times. There are slick alternatives that I abandoned due to their (to me) insane pricing models, like “add a few friends for free, then unlock unlimited friends for only $20/mo!” I get that they want to make money, but I’m not paying hundreds per year to remember to call my sister.

The main competitor here is plain old Reminders, or OmniFocus, or any other task manager. A repeating reminder to text that cool coworker you want to stay in touch with isn’t as shiny, but it gets the job done.

I don’t know if there’s an Apple API for getting metadata about recent calls and texts, but that would be the final piece for me: if I texted Joe yesterday, reset the timer on his reminder. I wouldn’t touch that idea with a ten foot pole for other apps, but your privacy policy of “everything you do stays on your own device and we see none of it” is perfect and compatible with the feature.

So, nice job, and thanks for sharing!

Re: Show HN: Poppy – A simple app to stay intentional with relationships

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Post by bko »

BoxFour wrote: post #61
bko wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Writing copy is painfully time consuming. AI just does it better, it's meant to communicate and people are not always great communicators. I know it'll write better copy than me. Terminally online people need to get over this weird aversion to anything generated w/ help of AI. Do you have similar misgivings, like "this guy obviously used auto correct", or "he's using speech to text, I'm not reading anything unless it…

I'll bite: Copy can signal that a real person spent time on the details and cared about the product. Auto-correct and speech-to-text still carry that idea. Even boring corporate PR language communicates something. It says the company wants to project stability and predictability, which can be reassuring. Slightly awkward, unpolished copy also sends a signal. It suggests a person speaking directly off-the-cuff rather…

> Auto-correct and speech-to-text still carry that idea

Why? You didn't spend real time consulting a dictionary or using penmanship, since writing is often slower than speaking. You didn't do your own memory management? Wow, guess you don't care about the details. Used a compiler? Wow dude, please spend the time to actually build the product the right way. These are all levels of abstraction, the idea is the idea. The LLM has no agency, it has no ideas, you give it your idea. It packages it out and communicates it effectively, which is respectful to the final user.

I don't owe you anything. Why am I wasting my time on this so you can feel somehow important. The copy is not the product. Its communication and should be done clearly and respectfully, and if an LLM facilitates with that, I would hope people use LLM for my sake.

> Even boring corporate PR language communicates something

Yes I want to communicate. I do so with the LLM. I might have a rant "stress privacy, go through the app and highlight the privacy features. Mention it's good for kids. Oh and also mention its local first (I would make this first actually),... " Whats the point of spending literally hours structuring, writing, re-writing etc. Communicate to the LLM, and use it to be respectful of your audience.

Re: Show HN: Poppy – A simple app to stay intentional with relationships

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Post by contagiousflow »

bko wrote: post #70
contagiousflow wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Writing copy is painfully time consuming I literally do not understand this sentiment. Do you not enjoy anything that takes time to do? Do you not enjoy putting time in for things that other people will look at? > I know it'll write better copy than me If this is the case I am desperately pleading with you to please read and write more. If you think the copy on this page is passable, let alone good, please read mor…

I like building apps, I don't necessarily like writing the same boilerplate BS for a necessary landing page for every app I make. Again, I'm not saying no one should write marketing copy, if that's your thing, go for it. Take your time, wordsmith. But for others they don't enjoy it or are not particularly good at it (i.e. English isn't someones first language). So let's be accepting and get over it. > If this is the…

If you're making apps for yourself, sure. But the purpose of a landing page is to convey information to humans. Slopping together some drivel to attempt the appearance of professionalism isn't just lazy, it's dishonest. Have some respect for the things you make and the people who may interact with them. And if you don't want to write boilerplate or copy: don't!

Re: Show HN: Poppy – A simple app to stay intentional with relationships

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Post by SunshineTheCat »

jamilton wrote: post #10

Website looks nice. The copy being so painfully AI-written is a turnoff, enough that my first thought was "oh yeah, I remember hearing about this kind of app, I should look at the other one I'm thinking of". I do like that it's local and free. Imported some contacts, doing quick setup, first contact, can't scroll down to confirm/finish setting them up. I'm on the SE, which is a slightly smaller screen, sometimes apps…

It feels like 90% of HN has become arguing about whether something was made by AI.

I'm just counting down the days until no one can actually tell how much AI was involved so we can get to discussing whether the thing is good or not.

Re: Show HN: Poppy – A simple app to stay intentional with relationships

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Post by BoxFour »

bko wrote: post #73
BoxFour wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll bite: Copy can signal that a real person spent time on the details and cared about the product. Auto-correct and speech-to-text still carry that idea. Even boring corporate PR language communicates something. It says the company wants to project stability and predictability, which can be reassuring. Slightly awkward, unpolished copy also sends a signal. It suggests a person speaking directly off-the-cuff rather…

> Auto-correct and speech-to-text still carry that idea Why? You didn't spend real time consulting a dictionary or using penmanship, since writing is often slower than speaking. You didn't do your own memory management? Wow, guess you don't care about the details. Used a compiler? Wow dude, please spend the time to actually build the product the right way. These are all levels of abstraction, the idea is the idea. Th…

> The copy is not the product

I think this is an illuminative statement from you, so I’m going to just explain that I (and many of the people responding to you likely) will vehemently disagree: The copy is an extremely important part of a product like this.

Unlikely we’ll see eye-to-eye on this which is fine, but I would encourage you to do some reflection on that. I’ll certainly be reflecting on what might’ve led to you your position as well.

Re: Show HN: Poppy – A simple app to stay intentional with relationships

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Post by 1shooner »

mriet wrote: post #34

So, I respect the entrepeneurship and technical skills to make this. Well done! That being said, this is insane. Maintaining your social network is a skill, just like being able to swim, doing math, being able to hold a good conversation, being able to code or cook or do your taxes. The "promise" and "illusion" of silicon valley is that all problems (including and maybe even especially social ones) can be solved with…

>do your taxes.

Are you not using software to do your taxes?

Re: Show HN: Poppy – A simple app to stay intentional with relationships

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Post by goodmythical »

SunshineTheCat wrote: post #76
jamilton wrote: post #10

Website looks nice. The copy being so painfully AI-written is a turnoff, enough that my first thought was "oh yeah, I remember hearing about this kind of app, I should look at the other one I'm thinking of". I do like that it's local and free. Imported some contacts, doing quick setup, first contact, can't scroll down to confirm/finish setting them up. I'm on the SE, which is a slightly smaller screen, sometimes apps…

It feels like 90% of HN has become arguing about whether something was made by AI. I'm just counting down the days until no one can actually tell how much AI was involved so we can get to discussing whether the thing is good or not.

There's way way way more human slop complaining about AI than there is AI in the first place.

It would be so much nicer if people didn't feel compelled to add the 32nd iteration of whining about the methodology used to produce the content.

I'd say I can't wait until the fad passes, but it's always something, isn't it?

I guess because anger/irritation/outrage are such popular sentiments people tend to resort to that kind of content because it makes them feel good to participate in trends. There's always going to be the group of people who seek popularity by aping whatever the latest fad is.

Re: Show HN: Poppy – A simple app to stay intentional with relationships

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Post by goodmythical »

lelanthran wrote: post #54
nullbyte808 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you know its AI? Who cares, sounds fine too me.

Well, if someone can't bother to write something, why should anyone bother to read it?

That's awfully able-ist isn't it?

How do you know that the author is capable of communicating fluently in english?

What if it were the case the the author was so excited about sharing a project but didn't know how to properly explained it and so took the extra effort to learn how to get a piece of software to explain it for them?

Would that then satisfy your requirement that the human behind the project has done enough work to earn your interest?

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