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Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I tend to see is mostly an overlooking of one side's actions while condemning the other side, with different people favoring different sides. So you have people who make excuses for Hamas like "they are just responding to an existential threat" while strongly condemning Israel, and people who make similar excuses for Israel while strongly condemning Hamas. Personally I feel that there are no heroes and everyone…

> Personally I feel that there are no heroes and everyone sucks in this situation, except for the innocent bystanders on both sides who are being caught in the crossfire. Wow, what a daring and brave opinion. I'm in awe that you're willing to share it publically! Like, a bunch of my local social media bubble has been talking about "media literacy" and "illiteracy" and related concepts and this is a great example. If,…

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Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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The local daily newspaper has always a small column, somewhere in the middle, with the front page title from 10, 20, 30,..., 90 years ago.

It's always "funny" because it's often something like

90 years ago: 4kg onion found at local farm

80 years ago: Allied troops suffer massive casualties in a German counter-attack at Messina

70 years ago: The ren faire opens tomorrow

Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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> For example, on Oct 7, 1985, Palestinian hijackers took over the cruise ship Achille Lauro. Reading this on a delay in 2025, the story unfolded over weeks: first they threw an American in a wheelchair overboard, then US fighter jets forced the escape plane to land, leading to a military standoff between US Navy SEALs and the Italian Air Force. Unbelievably, the US backed down, but the later diplomatic fallout led t…

> From the perspective of 2025, I can't help but think about the people I know today getting vocally angry about Israeli violence in the Gaza strip, and suggesting that this violence has implications for US politics - and I wonder how many of those people would be happy to throw an American in a wheelchair off a ship in the name of the Palestinian cause.

I'm quite unsure what this is trying to imply. Israel committed genocide in Gaza, this much is established, and even the skeptics about the word "genocide" admit at least "war crimes". How does knowing that there terrorists from that place murdererd a person in a wheelchair in 1985 change one's view about that?!

May I remind you that Israel murdered over one hundred people in Gaza for over two years. Some of those were even in wheelchairs. Would you like a link to videos, uncensored ones? Double-tap attacks on hospitals? Maybe the screams will not let you sleep at night.

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Nobody sane would perform the reasoning "Irish terrorists killed hundreds of British people in the 70s and 80s" ergo "the British army should destroy 85% of buildings in Ireland". But apparently s/Ireland/Palestine/ and it's a normal acceptable thing to say!

Finally, "suggesting that this violence has implications for US politics", of course it does. Israel is a major US ally and gets billions of dollars in funding. Of course it has implications on US policy, from diplomacy to finance.

Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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  Police Open Fire as 50,000 Protest Outside Pretoria
  L.A. Times Archives
  Nov. 21, 1985 12 AM PT
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-11-21-mn-2106-s...

Makes me recall a similar story happening in our times in the world. The headline does not mention "Black". [Security force] indiscriminately is killing. World says nothing.

Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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post #70

> The system ingests raw newspaper scans and uses a multi-step LLM pipeline to generate the daily edition Why would such a project possibly benefit for using LLMs to garble the text? Jesus christ the news are right there, just print them without rewriting them using a chatbot -.-

Wouldn't the NYT or whoever object to someone reposting their articles?

Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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> For example, on Oct 7, 1985, Palestinian hijackers took over the cruise ship Achille Lauro. Reading this on a delay in 2025, the story unfolded over weeks: first they threw an American in a wheelchair overboard, then US fighter jets forced the escape plane to land, leading to a military standoff between US Navy SEALs and the Italian Air Force. Unbelievably, the US backed down, but the later diplomatic fallout led t…

I am Italian, that was one of the proudest moment in our history.

The Achille Lauro episode was an example of Italy choosing what's best for the region rather than what's best for the people across the Atlantic. Hundreds of hostages' lives were saved by the actions of the Italian Government that day.

For context, in the post WW2 era, hundreds of Italian civilians were killed in accidents caused by US military operations in Italy, and our spineless leaders did nothing. In many cases they actively helped covering up the truth. Two of many examples:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itavia_Flight_870

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Cavalese_cable_car_crash

Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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> For example, on Oct 7, 1985, Palestinian hijackers took over the cruise ship Achille Lauro. Reading this on a delay in 2025, the story unfolded over weeks: first they threw an American in a wheelchair overboard, then US fighter jets forced the escape plane to land, leading to a military standoff between US Navy SEALs and the Italian Air Force. Unbelievably, the US backed down, but the later diplomatic fallout led t…

With that same logic me objecting to Iraq War I supported Saddam’s terror regime. Just because you think Israel actions are bloody genocidal war crimes does not mean that Hamas terror is justified or that some guy in a wheel chair should be killed. Yes, there is some young people who seem to get all of their information from social media and have absolutely no understanding of what is happening - they support Hamas,…

do you have any suggestions for those who want to understand what this conflict feels for a regular Israeli just trying to live

or Israelis 40 years ago today

or 75 years ago

or Palestinian Jews 100 years ago

etc

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