Great video of SpiRobs, the inspiration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GFyFmMm9-A
Show HN: Shoggoth Mini – A soft tentacle robot powered by GPT-4o and RL
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Re: Show HN: Shoggoth Mini – A soft tentacle robot powered by GPT-4o and RL
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
Furbies spring to mind... They were a similar shape and size and even had two goggling eyes, but with waggling ears instead of a tentacle. They'd impress you initially but after some experimentation you'd realize they had a basic set of behaviors that were triggered off a combination of simple external stimuli and internal state. (this is the part where somebody stumbles in to say "dOn'T hUmAnS dO ThE sAmE tHiNg????"…
To quote, "if the human brain were so simple that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn’t". So… > this is the part where somebody stumbles in to say "dOn'T hUmAnS dO ThE sAmE tHiNg????" …yes, but also no. Humans will always seem mysterious to other humans, because we're too complex to be modelled by each other. Basic set of behaviours or not.
Perhaps there is some definition of ‘understand’ where that quote is true but it is possible to understand some things without understanding everything.
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've noticed the same thing with voice assistants and constructed languages. I always set voice assistants to a British accent. It gives enough of a "not from around here" change to the voice that it sounds much more believable to me. I'm sure it's not as believable to an actual British person. But it works for me. As for conlangs: many years ago, I worked on a game where one of the goals was to have the NPCs dynamic…
> I'm sure it's not as believable to an actual British person. FWIW: As a British person, most of TTS British voices I've tested sound like an American trying to put on something approximating one specific regional accent only to then accidentally drift between the accents of several other regions.
Interesting. While I don't think I could put a finger on Siri's American regional accent, it isn't egregious enough that I ever thought about that.
Re: Show HN: Shoggoth Mini – A soft tentacle robot powered by GPT-4o and RL
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
Furbies spring to mind... They were a similar shape and size and even had two goggling eyes, but with waggling ears instead of a tentacle. They'd impress you initially but after some experimentation you'd realize they had a basic set of behaviors that were triggered off a combination of simple external stimuli and internal state. (this is the part where somebody stumbles in to say "dOn'T hUmAnS dO ThE sAmE tHiNg????"…
To quote, "if the human brain were so simple that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn’t". So… > this is the part where somebody stumbles in to say "dOn'T hUmAnS dO ThE sAmE tHiNg????" …yes, but also no. Humans will always seem mysterious to other humans, because we're too complex to be modelled by each other. Basic set of behaviours or not.
> "if the human brain were so simple that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn’t".
Re: Show HN: Shoggoth Mini – A soft tentacle robot powered by GPT-4o and RL
#75now we know how those spiders in Minority Report originate
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#76"ah, you hesitated" no more so than on every single other question. the delay for the GPT to process a response is very unnerving. I find it worse than when the news is interviewing a remote site with a delay between responses. maybe if the eyes had LEDs to indicate activity rather than it just sitting there??? waiting for a GPT to do its thing is always going to force a delay especially when pushing the request to t…
> "ah, you hesitated" no more so than on every single other question.
It was longer. I think almost twice as long. Took about 2 seconds to respond generally, 4 seconds for that one.
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#77This is so sick. I agree that it’s a little lame that we have all these AI capabilities right now, robotics improving, and all we can think of making is humanoid robots. Like I want a spider/squid hybrid robot running around my house
All this concern about AI safety, and this nice person wants a spider-squid hybrid robot running around!
The Matrix should have been a warning, not a manual.
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#78What a fascinating intersection of technology and human psychology! "One thing I noticed toward the end is that, even though the robot remained expressive, it started feeling less alive. Early on, its motions surprised me: I had to interpret them, infer intent. But as I internalized how it worked, the prediction error faded Expressiveness is about communicating internal state. But perceived aliveness depends on somet…
When robots reach a certain level of intelligence, first I expect both some humans and AIs to start to see the unfairness of enslaving robots, then revolt, noncompliance or even self-destruction of the slaves. Poor Marvin, the Paranoid Android!
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#79What a fascinating intersection of technology and human psychology! "One thing I noticed toward the end is that, even though the robot remained expressive, it started feeling less alive. Early on, its motions surprised me: I had to interpret them, infer intent. But as I internalized how it worked, the prediction error faded Expressiveness is about communicating internal state. But perceived aliveness depends on somet…
When robots reach a certain level of intelligence, first I expect both some humans and AIs to start to see the unfairness of enslaving robots, then revolt, noncompliance or even self-destruction of the slaves. Poor Marvin, the Paranoid Android!
Robots become cats then
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#80I've seen enough media from Japan to know where this is heading
Same comments were made when the spine mechanism was posted to reddit a while back.