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Re: Show HN: FlopperZiro – A DIY open-source Flipper Zero clone

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The popularity and usefulness of many devices like the Arduino and the Raspberry Pi doesn't stem from the hardware capabilities, but the "communities of scale" (lots of people use it -> it's much easier to find compatible software, hardware, guides etc.) I would expect this to be the same for the Flipper Zero.

On the one hand, sure it has a big effect, especially with hardware addons. But on the other, I think this is overstated, I lose count of how many "How to X on Raspberry Pi" pages I've seen that were really "How to X on linux" or at best "How to X on embedded Linux". Often they were worse than existing "How to X on linux" resources but picked up traction because of the association with a popular board. But then I'm j…

You're not the audience that is going to Google 'how to connect eBay humidity sensor to raspberry pi'. You have to remember that there is an experience gradient, and everyone starts somewhere.

Re: Show HN: FlopperZiro – A DIY open-source Flipper Zero clone

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On the one hand, sure it has a big effect, especially with hardware addons. But on the other, I think this is overstated, I lose count of how many "How to X on Raspberry Pi" pages I've seen that were really "How to X on linux" or at best "How to X on embedded Linux". Often they were worse than existing "How to X on linux" resources but picked up traction because of the association with a popular board. But then I'm j…

You're not the audience that is going to Google 'how to connect eBay humidity sensor to raspberry pi'. You have to remember that there is an experience gradient, and everyone starts somewhere.

You’re not wrong, I guess my point is that “the community” that produces guides and tools may be wider than the specific popular device, whether deliberately or by accident.

Everyone does start somewhere, and as much as the breathlessness over Raspberry Pi in the early days irritated me (many people seemed to think there had been no Linux on ARM before then), you absolutely can’t fault them for building a community and getting people interested in the whole area, and lowering the informational barriers to entry.

Re: Show HN: FlopperZiro – A DIY open-source Flipper Zero clone

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Because people obviously cant be trusted to follow their local laws when using flipper zero-esque devices https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/wall-of-flipp...

People ignoring laws isn't a new thing, does that mean things that could potentially be used for illegal things should be outright outlawed? That article you shared seems to say the problem is bigger than the used hardware even: > Soon after, developer Simon Dankelmann ported the attack to an Android app, allowing people to launch Bluetooth spam attacks without needing a Flipper Zero. How do you solve that without ou…

The bluetooth-enabled devices are failing to connect to their devices because of deauth attacks. If you know how to prevent that, I'm sure they'd be happy to implement a fix

Re: Show HN: FlopperZiro – A DIY open-source Flipper Zero clone

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Wondering what the hotels in Vegas around Defcon will think of it this year lol.

As someone who's been an IT ops support on a hacker-firendly conference, from an admin perspective - not great! But at an operational level our team could just blame Kevin Mitnick (RIP to a real one) for any single thing that we wrong in the building,

Re: Show HN: FlopperZiro – A DIY open-source Flipper Zero clone

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The title blurb seems to present it as a functional clone, rather than a limited copy. "A Flipper Zero clone, but cheapest, DIY and simply Open Source, made with Arduino IDE" Why not? "A hobby partial Flipper Zero clone, cheaper, DIY and Open Source, made with Arduino IDE" So it doesn't have to be clarified further down. I get that it's not that down, but the title is what will be shared and seen in web previews ever…

That's my thinking. It's not a clone. I finally remembered the term I was looking for. It's a "demake" - a remake but worse

Flipper Zero: Sweded Edition

Re: Show HN: FlopperZiro – A DIY open-source Flipper Zero clone

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It is exactly same problem like Raspberry Pi vs all other (cheaper, better) single board computers.

Except the RPi competition isn't better, only cheaper, because it has terrible software; and without a big community, no support?

If you stick to RockChip stuff, it's not bad.

Re: Show HN: FlopperZiro – A DIY open-source Flipper Zero clone

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People ignoring laws isn't a new thing, does that mean things that could potentially be used for illegal things should be outright outlawed? That article you shared seems to say the problem is bigger than the used hardware even: > Soon after, developer Simon Dankelmann ported the attack to an Android app, allowing people to launch Bluetooth spam attacks without needing a Flipper Zero. How do you solve that without ou…

The bluetooth-enabled devices are failing to connect to their devices because of deauth attacks. If you know how to prevent that, I'm sure they'd be happy to implement a fix

> The bluetooth-enabled devices are failing to connect to their devices

And that happens in lots of other cases too, when it's too far away, out of battery, damaged, does that mean their vital health devices stop working if that's happening? Sounds like they need to work on reliability if that was true.

Re: Show HN: FlopperZiro – A DIY open-source Flipper Zero clone

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Yes i know It, but when i started It this, It didn't exist yet

Its sometimes fun re-inventing the wheel, at least you get to understand it all better.

My brains the sort of a-hole that only understands if I reinvent it or break it in ways I was told not to.

Re: Show HN: FlopperZiro – A DIY open-source Flipper Zero clone

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What is going on with the PCB? It looks like the soldered several dev boards to a big PCB. I can't think of a good reason to do this.

Yes, you're nit the first telling me this. At first i wanted to make full custom pcb with smd components. But it cost me too much to make just one and some components were difficult to find, so i opted to make more like a shield so is more easy to find the componets and piu easier to solder than SMD for those who have never done it before. This is the same.The last one is also valid for the reason why it was written in Arduino and not in C, that at least even those who are not so familiar with it can modify it
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