A poor workaround to a problem created by unnecessary restrictions. Stalking is already illegal, so why are the tags crippled in the first place? This "feature" severely limits the usefulness of tags for tracking stolen items. Why not just sell some tags that don't alert everyone to their presence? Police and intelligence agencies have those already, so who are we protecting?
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#72A poor workaround to a problem created by unnecessary restrictions. Stalking is already illegal, so why are the tags crippled in the first place? This "feature" severely limits the usefulness of tags for tracking stolen items. Why not just sell some tags that don't alert everyone to their presence? Police and intelligence agencies have those already, so who are we protecting?
Breaking and entering is already illegal, why do people sell locks?
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#73Re: Show HN: Undetectag, track stolen items with AirTag
#74A while ago saw someone who was working in the tracking space said the following. For stolen items you don't want to track them. You want to be able to ask them where they are. The advantage is you can make a locator that doesn't reveal itself by transmitting. And it doesn't waste power receiving gps signals. You could literally have a device that runs for years on a AA battery. The reason you don't see these on the…
It was very effective. 98% recovery rate.
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#75Tile already has this feature. You need to pass verification to use it, but it stays undetectable. However, if you got caught stalking somebody you have to pay $1M fine.
> despite the absence of the device on Tile’s app, it can still be tracked and located through other means available on the device.
> Tile Tracker with Anti-Theft mode has a static Mac-Address, which may make it even more trackable
https://techryptic.github.io/2023/03/11/Tile-Anti-Theft-Mode...
Re: Show HN: Undetectag, track stolen items with AirTag
#76A poor workaround to a problem created by unnecessary restrictions. Stalking is already illegal, so why are the tags crippled in the first place? This "feature" severely limits the usefulness of tags for tracking stolen items. Why not just sell some tags that don't alert everyone to their presence? Police and intelligence agencies have those already, so who are we protecting?
I assume because it's a network that relies on its reputation among participating nodes to trust it will not be used to track them involuntarily, else they would opt out and collapse the network.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
Breaking and entering is already illegal, why do people sell locks?
Like tags, locks are also deliberately encumbered so that locksmiths and law enforcement can easily defeat them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5jzHw3lXCQ
Re: Show HN: Undetectag, track stolen items with AirTag
#78A poor workaround to a problem created by unnecessary restrictions. Stalking is already illegal, so why are the tags crippled in the first place? This "feature" severely limits the usefulness of tags for tracking stolen items. Why not just sell some tags that don't alert everyone to their presence? Police and intelligence agencies have those already, so who are we protecting?
Breaking and entering is already illegal, why do people sell locks?
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#79> Events outside our control, such as Apple updating the firmware in the future to prevent the device from working, will not qualify for a refund. I fully understand why you would want to do this, but as a consumer I would never buy this product with this clause.
I understand your point. In this case the price point makes this a bearable risk, especially to protect much more valuable items. A refund is only useful if only a certain % of people have issue or the company is big. Since this is my only product, an Airtag update that bricks the devices would just bankrupt the company and make me unable to refund most people as my margin is very low anyway.
For 10EUR, not only would I not worry about a refund but now I’m buying one or two to use myself on my bicycle and car.
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Like tags, locks are also deliberately encumbered so that locksmiths and law enforcement can easily defeat them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5jzHw3lXCQ
Are there people out there who sell locks that aren't purposefully bad?
otherwise 25 dollars at TSC for a fence post driver will make 95% of residential entryways irrelevant.