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I’ve been exploring something similar: combining visual programming with LLMs to teach computational thinking by hiding most of the syntax.
- Paper https://www.computer.org/csdl/proceedings-article/vl-hcc/202...
- Related demo https://flowpilot.trx.li/
I poised that we could merge Visual+LLM to teach Computational Thinking skills by abstracting the code syntax.
I love your premise here. I think visual programming has such untapped potential even though it has been tried and tried and tried so I hope you crack the code a bit (lol). I think you're exactly right on the idea of "I just diagrammed all the control flow why can't I just push run". It's kind of crazy to introduce a point of failure (and a menial translation step) by writing code to match the diagram. Another huge b…
Author here. Thanks! Lowering the barrier of collaboration is indeed a major goal for us. In the DRAKON analogy, Flowcode might help technical product managers collaborate with developers on LLM-heavy logic. Re: vibe-coding - that matches our vision 100%. Let AI build the nodes while a human (even if heavily AI-assisted) oversees
I feel that something like BPMN should be the starting point becomes at it from the business person or business analyst's point of view and then us more developer types can fill in the missing pieces, rather than starting from the developer POV and trying to foist that on the less technical stakeholders.
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Author here. Thanks! Lowering the barrier of collaboration is indeed a major goal for us. In the DRAKON analogy, Flowcode might help technical product managers collaborate with developers on LLM-heavy logic. Re: vibe-coding - that matches our vision 100%. Let AI build the nodes while a human (even if heavily AI-assisted) oversees
I tried creating a workflow: >Given a folder of scanned files, create a .bat file with move commands which renames each file using the information from the scan of the form and superimposed check using the naming convention: $ _ _ _ _ .pdf https://app.getflowcode.io/api/run/7344545b-116c-44f1-83e0-2... and when I run it, I get: >{"message":"No matching HTTP trigger found"} but I was expecting to be prompted for a fol…
The AI should have explained that local scripting isn't supported by Flowcode. Our copilot is under active development and has a lot of room for improvement.
Flowcode is built for cloud-based use cases - you can think of it as a "visual serverless" platform
Perhaps working directly with Flyde https://github.com/flydelabs/flyde + some AI assistant to build the custom nodes you'll need might work for that use case.
What is the error handling story? I'm shocked that Control Flow doesn't contain Try-Except Anyway, I ask because Write File returns nothing https://docs.getflowcode.io/docs/reference/file-system/write... > but there's also no discussion on that page of what happens when one cannot Write File (and the ways that can fall over are almost unlimited) Also, please fix the inputs bullet list, that's a pretty glaring "no one…
Error handling is a first-class citizen in Flyde, the visual programming language powering Flowcode. Any node has an "output pin" called "error" that will emit data if something goes wrong.
You can test this real quick in the playground - throw in a JS expression and write some gibberish and test your flow. Alternatively, use the HTTP node with a non-existent URL
Node-RED is mentioned deep in the thread. But just to say that Node-RED is over a decade old and is very widely used. Including some very large organisations like Siemens and Hitachi. It has thousands of packages and is Node.js/JavaScript based and so relatively easy to expand.
It's far from ideal when it comes to integrating with existing codebases and building backend features.
We're not competing with it directly, as we're aiming to be integrated into applicative production workflows.
Love the idea! I’ve been exploring something similar: combining visual programming with LLMs to teach computational thinking by hiding most of the syntax. - Paper https://www.computer.org/csdl/proceedings-article/vl-hcc/202... - Related demo https://flowpilot.trx.li/ I poised that we could merge Visual+LLM to teach Computational Thinking skills by abstracting the code syntax.
I checked your project, loved the idea and implementation! Played with it a bit, was very slick. Going to read the paper soon. Congrats
PS1: A poster about Flyde, the visual-programming was accepted to VL/HCC 23 - https://conf.researchr.org/details/vlhcc-2023/vlhcc-2023-pos... PS2: We call our AI copilot "Flowpilot" as well :D
Are you similar or competiting with https://icepanel.io/ ?
Have you seen Bret Victor's talk? You might want to contact him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUv66718DII
Congrats on your launch! Looks very good! We are building a similar product at www.midio.com and it seems you have come to some of the same conclusions as us about visual programming.