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Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations

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There are plenty of that type of person here on HN, we're not all engineers.

i.e. some of us are engineers in the traditional meaning.

I wonder how many "traditional" engineers are Mac coders. I work at hp so not many Macs around but in our R&D and especially in manufacturing and test&measurement Mac-only would be a problem.

Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations

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This looks very nice. Good job shipping it! For me personally, though, it's a hard sell. Since I just paid my JetBrains renewal, I am currently very aware that I'm paying $173/year for *all* of their IDEs, and PyCharm Pro is very good. Just from looking through the site for this one, while it does some *SUPER* nice things, it doesn't replace everything I use from just PyCharm Pro, let alone from the other JetBrains t…

Thanks, appreciate the feedback!

While the initial focus is on visualization capabilities, the missing IDE features are actively under development. Beyond cross-platform support, which PyCharm features would you consider essential and would like to see the most?

Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations

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Yeah, I think it's pretty similar. I definitely remember purchasing copies of the software like Borland C++ / Visual Studio / etc. that would essentially cover the major version number and all patch related updates. Although personally, I don't know if jetbrains offers an actual physical copy (give me back the big box!).

I love big boxes too! The manuals also show that developers really really know their products. It sucks that fast iteration is the new normal nowadays. It's not a bad thing if developers are eager to get their hands on a cutting edge feature, but I believe doing things slower but more thoroughly has its merit.

No they did not show that. They showed that the project team for the tools included more than developers.

It included qualified technical writers. It included project managers would would ensure that if somethiung was added there was a specification so that it could be documented.

ie developers were not allowed to get away with only doing a partial job.

Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations

#76

I am a robotics engineer/scientist and I do shit ton of visualization of all kind of high-fidelity/high-rate data, often in a streaming setting - time series at a few thousand Hz, RGB/depth images from multiple cameras, debugging my models by visualizing many layer outputs, every augmentation, etc. For a long time, I had my own observability suite - a messy library of python scripts that I use for visualizing data. I…

Just a note: ReRun works out-of-the box for a number of uses, but I ended up switching to my own (simple, visualization-oriented) engine based on WGPU and EGUI (ReRun uses both of those as well), so I had better control over the camera, visualizations, snapshots etc.

Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations

#77

This looks very nice. Good job shipping it! For me personally, though, it's a hard sell. Since I just paid my JetBrains renewal, I am currently very aware that I'm paying $173/year for *all* of their IDEs, and PyCharm Pro is very good. Just from looking through the site for this one, while it does some *SUPER* nice things, it doesn't replace everything I use from just PyCharm Pro, let alone from the other JetBrains t…

Thanks, appreciate the feedback! While the initial focus is on visualization capabilities, the missing IDE features are actively under development. Beyond cross-platform support, which PyCharm features would you consider essential and would like to see the most?

It's a long list. Most prominent lately, for me:

* uv/poetry detection and environment use

* refactoring

* unittest/pytest support

* docker compose service support (e.g. if I have a docker-compose.yml file in my project directory with redis and postgres services, pycharm lists the services in a UI and lets me start/stop/restart them easily from the IDE.)

* django app/model detection and completion from those models as I'm building things that query them

* "compound" runners, so I can start a npm watcher and a python watcher at the same time, and bounce them together as I iterate

* The debugger is really, really good. And it's practically automatic to jump from the PyCharm debugger to the Clion debugger when I'm dealing with a python package that has C++ modules.

* django and jinja template support as I build out things that present my results.

* ability to connect it to a data source and query/explore using sql directly against that, and see tabular results to help guide my other explorations

* Vim emulation in the editor... IdeaVim is a really good vim implementation, and I find I hate working without vim movements and commands.

Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations

#79

I've been doing Python development for a long time, since when 2.4 was the hottest thing. I've used the language for all sorts of things: web apps, web APIs, GUI tools, image manipulation, data processing and visualization, some data science, machine learning more recently. I've used many IDEs over the years, currently on PyCharm. Just to qualify the feedback. Pros: - It looks very pretty. - Some nice time saving fea…

I was interested, but Mac and subscription kill it for me. Good luck to them, though.

Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations

#80

I've been doing Python development for a long time, since when 2.4 was the hottest thing. I've used the language for all sorts of things: web apps, web APIs, GUI tools, image manipulation, data processing and visualization, some data science, machine learning more recently. I've used many IDEs over the years, currently on PyCharm. Just to qualify the feedback. Pros: - It looks very pretty. - Some nice time saving fea…

> currently on PyCharm. ... Cons: Subscription business model. ... Any one of the con's would be a deal breaker for me. I'm curious to understand this better (as a fan of JetBrains): do you currently use PyCharm Community or does the JetBrains model not count as a subscription for you?

Not the OP, but I have a subscription to PyCharm through work and still think it's inferior to VSCode. And I don't love vscode...

In general, subscriptions are a high bar for me. You typically pay for them year after year but see minimal improvements. Back when I was doing Java development, I paid for my own copy of Idea just to get to use something good. But I don't think I would do that for a subscription.

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