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Re: Show HN: Open-sourced Webflow for your own app

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This looks pretty awesome but, speaking only for myself here, the thing I actually want is just Webflow but without the BS and predatory pricing. A visual editor that produces plain old HTML, CSS, JS and that anyone in our company can use to make changes to pages or create new ones. That's it. I don't think it exists (if so, pointers would be very welcome!), so here's my comment to incentivize someone to build it.

but this is a tough problem with constant maintenance involved and you want it solved for free and handed to you on a silver platter have you considered paying developers or supporting open source software? I doubt it.

There's really not much maintenance for maintaining simple static assets.

Once you build the pipeline, it's not that hard to maintain CDN releases.

GP was just voicing a wish that a certain piece of software or service as described without predatory pricing exists.

They never said they wanted it for free, you did.

Re: Show HN: Open-sourced Webflow for your own app

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post #10

This looks pretty awesome but, speaking only for myself here, the thing I actually want is just Webflow but without the BS and predatory pricing. A visual editor that produces plain old HTML, CSS, JS and that anyone in our company can use to make changes to pages or create new ones. That's it. I don't think it exists (if so, pointers would be very welcome!), so here's my comment to incentivize someone to build it.

but this is a tough problem with constant maintenance involved and you want it solved for free and handed to you on a silver platter have you considered paying developers or supporting open source software? I doubt it.

I get where you're coming from. FWIW, at many points I considered just paying for Webflow but their pricing is just nuts. I'm simply not going to pay ~ $1k per year for them to host my static site with a couple 1000 visitors per month.

If Webflow had a competitor with same functionality and reasonable pricing I'd gladly pay for that.

Re: Show HN: Open-sourced Webflow for your own app

#75

Thanks, this looks pretty neat! Definitely a project to keep an eye on :-) I love the approach of having it show you the code (and diff) and control on writing it back. This seems like it may be very useful! As an AOLPress user back in the day, it's both really surprising that in 2024 we don't have more WYSIWIYG tools, but also understandable because of how hard it is to design one. Most tools end up trying to find a…

> Most tools end up trying to find a sweet spot between targeting a developer and targeting a designer, and as a result end up doing neither well. Emphasizing this because this happened to us. The initial version was trying to cater to designers and it was very hard for them to get value out of the to-code part because they need to convince the engineer to set up the codebase. Then when we add more support for engine…

I made a WYSIWYG tool to edit HTML file without polluting the code. It works well for landing pages but it doesn't work well with js-generated webapp.

https://github.com/beenotung/auto-cms

Re: Show HN: Open-sourced Webflow for your own app

#76
post #10

This looks pretty awesome but, speaking only for myself here, the thing I actually want is just Webflow but without the BS and predatory pricing. A visual editor that produces plain old HTML, CSS, JS and that anyone in our company can use to make changes to pages or create new ones. That's it. I don't think it exists (if so, pointers would be very welcome!), so here's my comment to incentivize someone to build it.

You can try to use auto-cms [1], it works on plain HTML and light js-enabled interactions.

[1] https://github.com/beenotung/auto-cms

Re: Show HN: Open-sourced Webflow for your own app

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I think one challenge that you will face is that Webflow is a SaaS app while your app I have to host somewhere. If I'm a non-technical user then I have no idea how to host this thing myself and will just go to a competitor. On the other hand if I'm a developer then I have to weigh the time it would take to host and maintain the app versus just building a regular react app from scratch. My suggestion is keep offering…

> If I'm a non-technical user then I have no idea how to host this thing myself and will just go to a competitor. This is a good suggestion. My plan is: 1. We start with packaging the Electron app as a downloadable. You'll still have to run your localhost app with it. 2. Then we'll add some UI support for cloning and running your project directly from the app. 3. The last step is to provide hosting for your app but I…

Since you mentioned cloning, feel free to hack on this https://github.com/beenotung/web-clone

Re: Show HN: Open-sourced Webflow for your own app

#78
post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

but this is a tough problem with constant maintenance involved and you want it solved for free and handed to you on a silver platter have you considered paying developers or supporting open source software? I doubt it.

I get where you're coming from. FWIW, at many points I considered just paying for Webflow but their pricing is just nuts. I'm simply not going to pay ~ $1k per year for them to host my static site with a couple 1000 visitors per month. If Webflow had a competitor with same functionality and reasonable pricing I'd gladly pay for that.

you are missing the point: if you don't have a business case for spending $1k/year then your problem is not worth solving

Re: Show HN: Open-sourced Webflow for your own app

#80
post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get where you're coming from. FWIW, at many points I considered just paying for Webflow but their pricing is just nuts. I'm simply not going to pay ~ $1k per year for them to host my static site with a couple 1000 visitors per month. If Webflow had a competitor with same functionality and reasonable pricing I'd gladly pay for that.

you are missing the point: if you don't have a business case for spending $1k/year then your problem is not worth solving

you have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
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