You tell me you don’t have bucket policies, ACL, CORS, multipart, headers, CDN, presigned URLS, and all those other absolutely necessary features, and so your alternative is a non-starter.
Show HN: File0 – An easier way to manage files in serverless apps
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Re: Show HN: File0 – An easier way to manage files in serverless apps
#72It isn't just developer experience. - Can I trust you? - Where are your company credentials? - What's the business continuity plan? - What's your support? Sending an email to hi@ may not work, when my application is dead because of some bug at your end.
Yeah you addressed the elephant in the room.
Obviously it's a brand new product, with 0 reputation. As with every new product at the begining I expect bugs and disruptions, but IMO the product is simple enough to get it right quickly. FILE0 a simple layer on top of R2, so for reliability and HA is majorly dependant of their system.
You can trust me as much as any random guy on the internet.
For a big cloud provider you will be just a number, they don't particularly care if you're happy or not, but what I can tell you that for me you're my #1 priority. If you're happy, FILE0 survives. If not all the effort building it goes to the bin.
What's missing from the product is the ability to share apps (aka buckets) with your co-workers. If thats a feature you can live without momentarily, businesses can ask for a custom offer if 100GB is not enough. But they won't be billed after seats or any of that crap. Just for usage.
That all being said, I would love to setup a call and have a personal connection, and I'm here to help with anything you might need. I'll enrich the page with more obvious contact details, because it's a legit concern I'd also have.
Re: Show HN: File0 – An easier way to manage files in serverless apps
#73Nice! This looks pretty well thought out so maybe you have considered this already, but you should sort out how you want to handle your local laws surrounding hosting files and your culpability. You will pretty quickly get nefarious and copyrighted material hosted on your servers, you will be asked by law enforcement for access and you will get DCMA take down requests, and scary sounding emails from lawyers. Just eng…
Valuable feedback. Cheers!
Re: Show HN: File0 – An easier way to manage files in serverless apps
#74How did you end up doing key management?
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#75Webpage looks great. Love the simple design with code examples front and center. I don't think it's fair to call the pricing transparent but hide it behind a sales gate. API looks nice, maybe a public page with API documentation would help. npm package is lightweight which is refreshing to see. Backend seems to be Cloudflare R2.
Cheers. The long-term plan of pricing is to only bill after storage-tiers.
The only reason there is no tiers, is because there are no customers with that need yet. But I hear you. I'm also sick of seat-based/bandwidth and a many other metrics providers charge us for.
Public API documentation is something many pointed out, so I consider adding some form of it. Appriciated.
Npm package is meant to be portable. It has 0 dependencies, and only utilizing API's that is widely available in any runtime.
And yes. you nailed it. It's backed by R2 and CF workers.
Re: Show HN: File0 – An easier way to manage files in serverless apps
#76This seems like a great idea. I've come to think the UX requirements of enterprise and indie dev / start up customers are fundamentally incompatible in the cloud. As an enterprise I want to be able to set restrictions at the org, project, team and resource level for various compliance rules. And I want these rules to be restrictive by default (e.g block public access). However as an individual developer the mere exis…
When you have highly granular controls, you need to create intermediary common sets or “profiles” of those sets at decreasing levels of granularity for the more common use cases, at least some of the most common sets where I can simply choose a single setting to effect everything with sane defaults.
Consumer cameras remind me of this when they started mimicking more and more sophisticated feature sets of professional cameras. Sure I want that fantastic sensor, great lens setup and ability to take both narrow and wide depth of field photos but I don’t know or rather want to be bothered dealing with adjusting all my f-stops, focal point etc. I need automation where possible for these cases to give me sane results.
In that case it’s a bit more complex because you have engineering problems for those intermediary steps (e.g. autofocus and making sure the image results meet criteria) whereas for software profiles you can often get away with just choosing option sets. Some options still can’t be hand waived away though and require some degree of looking at other things to inform them or being manually set even for pure software controls.
Re: Show HN: File0 – An easier way to manage files in serverless apps
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is true for all of Amazon's products. They enshitified everything by being beholden to never-ending customer requests for more fine knobs. Their products have a serious "let's just bolt this on" vibe. There is no theme or reason to it. AWS went from "just push a couple of buttons and you are running in the cloud without a dedicated sys admin" to "you are going to have to hire a team of cloud admins because no on…
It's just different maturity stages of different products. It's very hard not to add features when your bottom line depends on it.
There is a middle ground, however, between Amazon's "let's pile on more stuff until it's incomprehensible" and Google's "ah let's just kill the whole thing".
The latter will really get your customers torqued, the former is going to make some customers not get exactly what they want.
Maybe in the early days this would have made sense, but the cloud vendor lock in is so strong that I seriously doubt most customers even have the leverage. "Add this feature or we are walking to Linode"?
I don't think so. It just seems like a broken product design culture, where the managers need to add features non-stop, so they can make some slides and get their raises. Big company problems, to be sure, but still disfunctional.
Re: Show HN: File0 – An easier way to manage files in serverless apps
#78As somebody who's spent over a decade making interactions with filesystem easier, I really understand why somebody would be tired. I originally made Flysystem for PHP to reduce the consumer-end complexity of using many types of filesystems (S3, FTP, SFTP, GCS, GridFS). I've recently made the move towards the TypeScript ecosystem, for which I've built https://flystorage.dev (a TS equivalent of Flysystem). Looks like t…
Awesome poduct! Let me know if u need help.
Re: Show HN: File0 – An easier way to manage files in serverless apps
#79But you don't need to master bucket policies, ACL, CORS, multi part uploads, content headers, CDN, or pre-signed URLs for what this is doing. There's a bit more boilerplate to set everything to the "I don't care whatever" settings, but that's because the "I don't care whatever" approach is usually not what you want for anything serious. I'm not sure how to use this from my Java or Rust projects. I also don't see any…
The webpage is a little bare-bones apologies. The setup instructions and tutorial appears when you create an account.
At the moment the client package is only for js/ts devs. The package is based on HTTP api calls so it shouldn't be a huge issue porting it to other languages, but obv it's challenging without public HTTP specs. If you're into implementing a wrapper I'd be happy to assist and share those details.
About costs. The is no information, because there is no egress fee. FILE0 is built on top of R2. They don't charge for egress, so neither you pay. File size limit is 5GB soft limit. This is set as a sensible default but can be increased on demand.
The main location is in us-east, and it's replicated around the globe. If the file already exists, it is overriden. Yes, all the setup guide and API-specific tutorials are visible in your dashboard after signup.
Re: Show HN: File0 – An easier way to manage files in serverless apps
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reminiscent of Diane Morgan's Mandy -- "I'm at my lowest egg"
Interesting, since such plausible mishearing are often called ‘Eggcorns’ ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggcorn )
I never knew that, thanks -- includes one of my favourites, "damp squid", which I've heard for real ...