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Re: Show HN: Nekoweb – a retro static web hosting

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Post by yoavm »

tr3ntg wrote: post #56
ewoijfawoifj wrote: post #55

> Nekoweb is a free static website hosting service, created in 2024 by a group of coders, programmers and artists, passionate for the old web and personal websites. > Join us on our discord to chat with the community and the developers! Gating discussion of the open web in a proprietary service is an interesting decision. Shows that we're still far too reliant on closed protocols for even smaller nontrivial tasks lik…

Welcome to HackerNews, a proprietary service

At least you can use Hacker News without an account. You can probably even read the news and discussions here with curl.

Re: Show HN: Nekoweb – a retro static web hosting

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Post by bsoup »

dimden wrote: post #5
shantnutiwari wrote: post #3

Like neocities? Whats the difference?

It is pretty similar to Neocities. A little bit of differences are: - you can style your site box for discovery page - no limit for file types and some paid plan differences: - ftp support - up to 5 custom domains - cheaper (you can get 1 custom domain for $1 or 5 and all perks for $3 vs neocities' $5)

A few questions/suggestions, if I may:

Would really appreciate more documentation (there's also very little documentation on Neocities!), on things like whether (and if yes, how) clean URLs are supported.

From the "donate" page, what exactly do "Endless bandwidth" and "Twice as smaller rate limits" mean? I can't seem to find documentation of the limits for the free tier, so it's difficult to determine what "Twice as smaller" means.

As there are already quite a few services offering free static web hosting, it seems to me what places like Nekoweb and Neocities have to offer is a sense of community and ways for like-minded people to find each other - and in that respect, I've been frustrated with some of Neocities' limitations (like the limit of 5 tags) and apparent lack of interest in developing further. Do you think you'll implement things like a tag cloud, to help people find each other?

And finally, is Nekoweb open source, or will it be?

Re: Show HN: Nekoweb – a retro static web hosting

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Post by littlestymaar »

tr3ntg wrote: post #56
ewoijfawoifj wrote: post #55

> Nekoweb is a free static website hosting service, created in 2024 by a group of coders, programmers and artists, passionate for the old web and personal websites. > Join us on our discord to chat with the community and the developers! Gating discussion of the open web in a proprietary service is an interesting decision. Shows that we're still far too reliant on closed protocols for even smaller nontrivial tasks lik…

Welcome to HackerNews, a proprietary service

Nobody is talking about IP here, it's about using standard and open protocols. HN and Nekoweb are both proprietary services, that's fine, but they run on HTTP and the only thing you need to interact with it is a web browser of some sort, whereas nekoweb's discord “server” relies on a third party (Discord) and uses a nonstandard closed protocol.

Re: Show HN: Nekoweb – a retro static web hosting

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Post by jerbear4328 »

littlestymaar wrote: post #75
tr3ntg wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Welcome to HackerNews, a proprietary service

Nobody is talking about IP here, it's about using standard and open protocols . HN and Nekoweb are both proprietary services, that's fine, but they run on HTTP and the only thing you need to interact with it is a web browser of some sort, whereas nekoweb's discord “server” relies on a third party (Discord) and uses a nonstandard closed protocol.

Discord runs in the browser, same as HN. And the HTTP APIs they use aren't officially documented (except HN's read-only ones via Firebase and Algolia) (though both are easily reverse engineered and OSS frontends exist). There's not much difference.

Re: Show HN: Nekoweb – a retro static web hosting

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Post by busk07 »

littlestymaar wrote: post #75
tr3ntg wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Welcome to HackerNews, a proprietary service

Nobody is talking about IP here, it's about using standard and open protocols . HN and Nekoweb are both proprietary services, that's fine, but they run on HTTP and the only thing you need to interact with it is a web browser of some sort, whereas nekoweb's discord “server” relies on a third party (Discord) and uses a nonstandard closed protocol.

By your reasoning, any backend that’s not accessible directly by the user is proprietary. HN would then also be proprietary, because it relies on a third party (HN) and uses a nonstandard closed protocol (this comment section). Any website that stores data and exposes it via their own UI is proprietary (I leave this vague on purpose, as it is up to interpretation). Discord can be run in the browser and is accessible via APIs. I think it’s as open as any other web app by a company that has a commercial interest.

Services like Discord have lowered the entry barrier for non-technical conversation and community-building online. It certainly seems to be polarizing. I’ve noticed a lot of my friends and colleagues either embrace it or despise it. I wouldn’t mind an open-source alternative to it, but with the extensive features that it offers that’s hard to achieve.

Re: Show HN: Nekoweb – a retro static web hosting

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Post by wifipunk »

fantasyui-com wrote: post #45

Has anybody made a retro page yet? Post it here, let's start a web ring!!! I made mine, it was super fun: https://catpea.nekoweb.org/ Also, the freaking marquee tag still works! Here is something to bring tears to your eyes: https://web.archive.org/web/20011201030230/http://davinci.ic...

I started making one for to talk about and share my favorite punk music, but I’m thinking about expanding it to be more personal too. https://punk.nekoweb.org/

Re: Show HN: Nekoweb – a retro static web hosting

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Post by derrida »

ewoijfawoifj wrote: post #55

> Nekoweb is a free static website hosting service, created in 2024 by a group of coders, programmers and artists, passionate for the old web and personal websites. > Join us on our discord to chat with the community and the developers! Gating discussion of the open web in a proprietary service is an interesting decision. Shows that we're still far too reliant on closed protocols for even smaller nontrivial tasks lik…

I really don't get the discord phenomena, it seems like more bloatware and demands on attention and notifications - I mean - IRC is right there and you can at least control your own attention span however you want.

Re: Show HN: Nekoweb – a retro static web hosting

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Post by erremerre »

derrida wrote: post #79
ewoijfawoifj wrote: post #55

> Nekoweb is a free static website hosting service, created in 2024 by a group of coders, programmers and artists, passionate for the old web and personal websites. > Join us on our discord to chat with the community and the developers! Gating discussion of the open web in a proprietary service is an interesting decision. Shows that we're still far too reliant on closed protocols for even smaller nontrivial tasks lik…

I really don't get the discord phenomena, it seems like more bloatware and demands on attention and notifications - I mean - IRC is right there and you can at least control your own attention span however you want.

Try asking a question in a IRC, and in a Discord, and you will get the phenomena is just that in discord at least someone answer you.
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