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Show HN: OK-Robot: open, modular home robot framework for pick-and-drop anywhere

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Re: Show HN: OK-Robot: open, modular home robot framework for pick-and-drop anywhere

#72

Back in the day, my friend would lament not having “closetgrep” to find the needed thingy stored in an overfilled closet.

I bought 40 little cardboard boxes (VATTENTRÅG - they are pretty cheap, and shallow enough so you don't have to go digging too much) from IKEA and started putting what was in each one in text files so I could literally do that (grep for things). I still need to catalog 38 out of the 40 boxes though so I'm reconsidering my strategy.

Re: Show HN: OK-Robot: open, modular home robot framework for pick-and-drop anywhere

#73
post #27

This is rad. I would totally buy a 25k robot if I could train it to fold and put away my laundry (serious)

I would buy a $100k robot if it could do the laundry and the dishes and the cooking and clean up after the kids. In a heartbeat.

Re: Show HN: OK-Robot: open, modular home robot framework for pick-and-drop anywhere

#74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the US? I assume ADA was the kicker. A lot of folks even in government don’t realize the ADA isn’t unthinking. If the activity or environment doesn’t lend itself to accessibility it’s not required. Cutting a wheel chair ramp into a mountain face is a good example where the ADA wouldn’t apply because it’s impractical given the environment to do so. Even national parks only offer a subset set of activities ADA compl…

No, it wasn't an ADA thing. It was a purely local thing. The local authority had adopted some resolution that no further "development" would happen before they added some sort of accessibility. So we couldn't move forwards even using donated money. We could repair things but not make substantive improvements. Rock climbing areas tend to be inaccessible or at least very rough terrain. Ironically, a vertical rock surfa…

I guess pointing at the cliff and saying that’s the accessible route doesn’t fly eh? It’s an inclined slope - just very inclined. And yes there are tons of disabled climbers.

Re: Show HN: OK-Robot: open, modular home robot framework for pick-and-drop anywhere

#75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it wasn't an ADA thing. It was a purely local thing. The local authority had adopted some resolution that no further "development" would happen before they added some sort of accessibility. So we couldn't move forwards even using donated money. We could repair things but not make substantive improvements. Rock climbing areas tend to be inaccessible or at least very rough terrain. Ironically, a vertical rock surfa…

I guess pointing at the cliff and saying that’s the accessible route doesn’t fly eh? It’s an inclined slope - just very inclined. And yes there are tons of disabled climbers.

We generally understand that disabled people have a right to access the spaces that everyone else does. But climbing/caving is different, different than most any other activity: Access to space is controlled by ability. I have stood on ledges that are impossible to get to without a certain set of skills. If there was a ladder or a staircase, standing on that ledge would mean nothing. We can make a pool or athletic field accessible, but making such a remote ledge half way up a sheer cliff accessible by people without those abilities isn't possible without destroying the nature of that space. So there is always going to be conflict.

Re: Show HN: OK-Robot: open, modular home robot framework for pick-and-drop anywhere

#76
For solving long term tasks like finding things that aren't there, you can turn the annotated scene into a templated description and feed it to a large-enough model trained on interactive fiction.

You are standing in a kitchen. Ahead of you to your right there is a large refrigerator with the handle on the right side. There is a set of cabinets to your left with a plate sitting on the counter above them.

> get beer

You don't see any beer here.

> open fridge

Opening the refrigerator reveals 4 cans of beer.

> get beer

taken

Obviously we're still several years from this working, but it's very exciting to consider. Interactive Fiction narrative fed by real sensors plus chain-of-thought blocks as internal monologue.

Re: Show HN: OK-Robot: open, modular home robot framework for pick-and-drop anywhere

#78
post #38

This is remarkable and could be life changing for the disabled, elderly, gamers, or profoundly lazy and their caretakers.

I forgot where I saw that, but generally, improving things for people with disabilities improves things for everyone, like making sidewalks wheelchair friendly helps parents with a stroller, or people carrying heavy stuff, walking with a cane, young children on bicycles, people who can't see well...

While I would agree in general, I once slipped on one of those overly steep carved-out kerbs in SF and broke my elbow... I guess if you hit a bad spot you might need a wheelchair afterwards (ok, but it really did hurt!)

So you have to do it right to keep the potential harm as low as possible and not forget about security in the face of rewarding improvements. And watch your step, of course.

Might also be applicable in the context of self-learning household robots and their potential to burn down that house :)

Re: Show HN: OK-Robot: open, modular home robot framework for pick-and-drop anywhere

#79
post #76

For solving long term tasks like finding things that aren't there, you can turn the annotated scene into a templated description and feed it to a large-enough model trained on interactive fiction. You are standing in a kitchen. Ahead of you to your right there is a large refrigerator with the handle on the right side. There is a set of cabinets to your left with a plate sitting on the counter above them. > get beer Y…

Great, now we can teach robots to wander around rooms looking for things, saying "keys, keys, keys... where would I put keys?"
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