It's an interesting idea, but pretty much unusable at this point. Definitely needs filtering, searching and a better UI with clean separation of submissions (think StackOverflow).
Show HN: Get a better job offer, anonymously - my weekend hack
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Re: Show HN: Get a better job offer, anonymously - my weekend hack
#72It struck me as odd that I would want to hire people this way. As far as I can tell everyone is just asking for more money (big surprise, I know) but it says nothing about what they want to do, are interested in, etc. Do I just blindly reach out to a bunch of people and hope they match my needs?
>Do I just blindly reach out to a bunch of people and hope they match my needs? welcome to recruiting! :) (except that a recruiter is totally unqualified to assess who can actually match their client's needs - even with their CV in front of them and the chance to talk with them by phone or in person) That's why recruiters don't care about clients' "needs". They care about clients' "requirements"
>"except that a recruiter is totally unqualified to assess who can actually match their client's needs"
"How would you rate your ability to harvest Karma from a site such as Hackernews, on a scale of 1 to 5?"
"eh, 3?"
"and reddit?"
"um, 5"
Re: Show HN: Get a better job offer, anonymously - my weekend hack
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Re: Show HN: Get a better job offer, anonymously - my weekend hack
#74Minor bug report:
I tried to fill it out with the 'links' browser. I didn't see the captcha so I did not get a confirmation email but the app did seem to retain my email address so I cannot delete the old one to resubmit when I use a GUI browser.
As an aside, I really like this because of how people don't talk about how much they make. When I see someone makes $164000 as a pen tester in Mountain View and I make a smaller amount, I feel like I could be working on interesting problems and make a bit more coin. oh, well. :(
Minor suggestion: I wonder how much other people like my ad? Perhaps that's part of the mystery. That info, perhaps shouldn't be available to poachees but only poachers? I dunno.
Re: Show HN: Get a better job offer, anonymously - my weekend hack
#75This is really awesome, so awesome I think that you should think about how to monetize it and make some serious money. (I know that's seemingly against the "hacker ethos", but it's not often that you think of million-dollar ideas).
If I were them, I'd be scrambling to make recruiters pay $xx-$xxx to contact people through the site.
You should make it so recruiters pay when they get a response. The could only message candidates through the site initially (not via email) and their email would also be anonymized. If the candidate replied then the recruiter could be charged $XXX per reply.
Re: Show HN: Get a better job offer, anonymously - my weekend hack
#76I find it odd that people would put such a wide discrepency between current and desired salary.
If you are making 30K, as a webdeveloper and are seeking 60K as a web developer, I dont see why anyone would read this and think "Hey, here's a guy who wants double what he is making now, lets go get him"
Like the manager in UAE who states 130K current and 180K desired.
50K is a lot, even though its a smaller % than the 100% - Why do these people feel that if they are worth twice what they are making now, that advertising via this site is a good idea.
Maybe I'm confused?
Like this one:
"I'm a Generalist, and I currently make $120,000 in San Francisco. I'm ONLY interested in jobs as a Generalist that pay at least $140,000 in San Francisco."
This tells me absolutely nothing.
Re: Show HN: Get a better job offer, anonymously - my weekend hack
#77This one is funny though:
"I'm a Very Unhappy Facebook User, and I currently make $10,001 in creating Facebook's content. I'm ONLY interested in jobs as a Happy Facebook User that pay at least $10,002 in creating awesome content."
Re: Show HN: Get a better job offer, anonymously - my weekend hack
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because they want to offer just enough for the money to be attractive to you, but no more.
But that only explains it from the poacher's perspective. The question still remains, why would the poachee want to state their current salary?
They don't know how to negotiate
Re: Show HN: Get a better job offer, anonymously - my weekend hack
#79It struck me as odd that I would want to hire people this way. As far as I can tell everyone is just asking for more money (big surprise, I know) but it says nothing about what they want to do, are interested in, etc. Do I just blindly reach out to a bunch of people and hope they match my needs?
Right, this only takes hiring into account based solely on the external motivation of money. Money only works as a motivator so long as basic (and intermediate) needs are met. This kind of behavior is how I perceive a lot of hiring takes place in SV now, with talent moving to the highest bidder without much thought of culture and other needs.
When employers all start offering the same wages because you've hit The Limit(tm), you start becoming very interested in culture, work/life balance, location, side perks, what your working on and probability of success.
Re: Show HN: Get a better job offer, anonymously - my weekend hack
#80The recruiter that got back to me was more direct and less spammy than other random recruiting emails I get from those who see my profile on linkedin etc. I'm wondering if this is an accident or a change in the way the recruiter views these postings.