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Re: Show HN: Firefox Addon to Filter NSFW Content

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It's called consent. For a minor, their parent or guardian must consent to show them adult or other traumatizing content. Despite your personal experience, parents and guardians ultimately have the right,authority and responsibility to do their best to ensure the well being of a minor under their care which could mean no porn or even no meat in their diet. You don't have to agree. > Much worse than adult content is a…

> It's called consent. You don't appear to understand what that word means. This has nothing to do with consent. > For a minor, their parent or guardian must consent to show them adult or other traumatizing content. Pray tell how adult content is "traumatizing"? Before the internet kids used to pull porn magazines out of the trash or sneak down late at night to watch their parent's adult channel subscriptions. Findin…

> This isn't about policing morality but consent and it is a shame that it is neccesary to begin with. >> That is absolutely what this is about

No, that's the strawman you want it to be about. Neither I nor no one else talked about preventing any willing person from interacting with sexual content.

Re: Show HN: Firefox Addon to Filter NSFW Content

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post #64
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Looks like a great tool for recovering addicts everywhere. I hope to see more innovation in this space, particularly on mobile.

What kind of innovation would you hope for on mobile? In theory this can work for Firefox for Android but ... the experience isn't very smooth yet.

Something that could read the screen at any point in time, across apps and flag/filter NSFW images, all running with a local model and no outgoing internet connections would be pretty neat.

Re: Show HN: Firefox Addon to Filter NSFW Content

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People are offering their perspective and refuting your claims. You don’t think hyperbolic statements like “porn is the most addictive thing known to man” weren’t going to be challenged? Sexuality is a very normal part of human life, even if someone does get aroused in the image example (I don’t always from images even with a very high libido), what is the problem with that? I’ve been places where nudity is normal su…

Challenged is of course fine but the challenge being accusations and attacks is not fine. My claim about the addictiveness of porn was an opinion based on what I have leanred and observed. Of course I welcome anyone to show me anything more addictive than your own body and mind. There is no problem with getting aroused or with sexuality, you and others so far keep twisting what I am saying to be an attempt to police…

> Of course I welcome anyone to show me anything more addictive than your own body and mind.

Heroin.

Re: Show HN: Firefox Addon to Filter NSFW Content

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post #69

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People are offering their perspective and refuting your claims. You don’t think hyperbolic statements like “porn is the most addictive thing known to man” weren’t going to be challenged? Sexuality is a very normal part of human life, even if someone does get aroused in the image example (I don’t always from images even with a very high libido), what is the problem with that? I’ve been places where nudity is normal su…

Challenged is of course fine but the challenge being accusations and attacks is not fine. My claim about the addictiveness of porn was an opinion based on what I have leanred and observed. Of course I welcome anyone to show me anything more addictive than your own body and mind. There is no problem with getting aroused or with sexuality, you and others so far keep twisting what I am saying to be an attempt to police…

> Moreover, you people are sociopaths if you don't understand the simple fact that you live in a society and you have to function without harming or harassing others.

I made no personal attacks against you. I will say you’re probably not coming across in your comments here the way you believe you are.

Re: Show HN: Firefox Addon to Filter NSFW Content

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> It's called consent. You don't appear to understand what that word means. This has nothing to do with consent. > For a minor, their parent or guardian must consent to show them adult or other traumatizing content. Pray tell how adult content is "traumatizing"? Before the internet kids used to pull porn magazines out of the trash or sneak down late at night to watch their parent's adult channel subscriptions. Findin…

> This isn't about policing morality but consent and it is a shame that it is neccesary to begin with. >> That is absolutely what this is about No, that's the strawman you want it to be about. Neither I nor no one else talked about preventing any willing person from interacting with sexual content.

That's the entire point of internet filters. To prevent people from accidentally or intentionally seeing it.

Re: Show HN: Firefox Addon to Filter NSFW Content

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post #56

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people really loose sight of “normal habits” when talking about sex. there’s this intense religious shame, so the folks with the most fucked up libidos assume everyone must be like them. i see posts like this as a confession, much less an anecdote

Religion has nothing to do with it, you are changing the subject and attacking me personally by claiming I am confessing to shame or something (like I give a shit): Try sticking to facts. Naked people arouse sexual desires in others, yes, myself included and most people from any country and religion (or no religion). If you contest this near universally accepted fact the the burden of proof is on you. I mean give me…

nudity has nothing to do with sex as you’ve said elsewhere, it’s all about consent. i don’t sexualize strangers, because i don’t have their consent. when i walk around my home nude, i’m doing it because i’m comfortable being nude. it’s a preference for me, but people like who who can’t see nudity without complaining about “sexuality and sexualization of all nude bodies” bore the shit out of me. convince me your stance is different in anyway from demanding a burqa? the logic feels the same to me, cover up because i can’t control my own body, and it’s not my fault!

grow up and stop thinking about fucking everything you see naked, it’s odd

Re: Show HN: Firefox Addon to Filter NSFW Content

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post #64

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What kind of innovation would you hope for on mobile? In theory this can work for Firefox for Android but ... the experience isn't very smooth yet.

Something that could read the screen at any point in time, across apps and flag/filter NSFW images, all running with a local model and no outgoing internet connections would be pretty neat.

Unfortunately my experiences with mobile app stores put that likely in the "not possible at all" category rather than the "tricky" category like it might be for desktops.

Re: Show HN: Firefox Addon to Filter NSFW Content

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Maybe I am being stupid, but I cannot see anywhere where you describe what you consider to be "NSFW"

The "About this extension" section has in the top paragraph: It targets pornography, borderline sexualized content, as well as other graphic images that are not safe for work (NSFW) or may be inappropriate for children. And then more details as the other commenter pointed out: https://github.com/wingman-jr-addon/model#dataset Your response is interesting because it tells me you maybe expected it to be in a different…

Ok, then what I mean is "what do you consider to be pornographic"?

In some countries it's not NSFW to see a naked breast, I am going to assume this software does not take that into account.

Am I right?

A bigger point one could make is that this is projecting your cultural norms onto the internet as the "default".

It's a cool idea, though.

Re: Show HN: Firefox Addon to Filter NSFW Content

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post #54

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What are you talking about? There are plenty of male subs looking to be dominated by women. And either way, it's generally understood to be primarily a sexual kink only consented to by both parties. If it's not consensual, then it's not BDSM, it's abuse. BDSM is also wildly different from marriage of any kind - you might be thinking of 24/7 power exchange?

I don’t know if comment you are responding to was edited after response, but you may want to reread it: > That reminds me of repackaging a traditional historical male dominated marriage, including occasional corporal punishment, as a BDSM kink to make it normal again. You think you’re seeing a woman in a dress, but actually it’s fetish gear showing her submission. That’s clearly a joke about normalizing historically…

I don't see how it's a joke. It's clearly criticism and making an unjustifiable judgment. BDSM has no preference about which gender is submitting or which is dominant.

Re: Show HN: Firefox Addon to Filter NSFW Content

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post #79

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I don’t know if comment you are responding to was edited after response, but you may want to reread it: > That reminds me of repackaging a traditional historical male dominated marriage, including occasional corporal punishment, as a BDSM kink to make it normal again. You think you’re seeing a woman in a dress, but actually it’s fetish gear showing her submission. That’s clearly a joke about normalizing historically…

I don't see how it's a joke. It's clearly criticism and making an unjustifiable judgment. BDSM has no preference about which gender is submitting or which is dominant.

> It's clearly criticism [...]

I'm having trouble seeing where you see criticism in that post. Could you help me understand?

> BDSM has no preference about which gender is submitting or which is dominant.

Where does OP suggest otherwise?

> I don't see how it's a joke.

I'll expound below, but in short: I see the original comment as being a joke at heterosexual men's expense, in particular those who wish to dominate their wives.

For posterity, here's the whole quote:

> That reminds me of repackaging a traditional historical male dominated marriage, including occasional corporal punishment, as a BDSM kink to make it normal again. You think you’re seeing a woman in a dress, but actually it’s fetish gear showing her submission.

And this is how I understand it:

> [...] traditional historical male dominated marriage, including occasional corporal punishment

So what we're talking about here is marriage, and one premise is that, historically speaking, men are in a dominant role. I don't read this suggesting any judgement (good or bad), only that it has, historically, been the case.

Also, corporal punishment was not uncommon (and, sadly, domestic violence is still a serious issue). If if we find (as we will in the proceeding text) a suggestion that corporal punishment, or some facsimile thereof, should be preserved, we have two interpretations that we can proceed with: 1) the poster is a flagrant asshat and is being serious, or 2) comedic irony is about to be employed. To each their own choice, but I'm going with option 2, as I suspect most people would have enough sense to keep assholery to themselves: Occam's Razor suggests the second option.

Zooming out a bit:

> That reminds me of repackaging [...] marriage, [...] as a BDSM kink to make it normal again.

The use of repackaging here means, roughly, "same essence internally, different outward appearance". So we're talking about "repackaging" traditional marriage -- that is, preserving the "traditional" role of men dominating their partner, but under new pretenses.

> [...] as a BDSM kink to make it normal again.

I see that this could be taken as a slight. If we're making it "normal again", that implies its not normal now, which could be taken as a negative judgement toward BDSM. While I can anticipate this interpretation, I think its a stretch, and an uncharitable interpretation.

Regrettably, just about all kinks (and often, sadly, sex itself) is considered taboo. That's the reality of our modern (and historical) views on sex. So a proposal, whether in seriousness or in jest, to make BDSM "normal again" doesn't imply any positive nor negative sentiment towards BDSM.

> You think you’re seeing a woman in a dress, but actually it’s fetish gear showing her submission.

This is the "repackaging" referred to earlier, and the punchline of the joke. The butt of the joke is heterosexual men who would like to dominate their wives.

In the interest of diversity, I suppose OP could have picked any other pair of genders -- for instance, they could have spoken of a woman dominating her husband or wife in the same manner... but the joke wasn't about BDSM in the first place, the joke was about a subset of heterosexual married men, and their penchant for being dicks to their spouses. It's not like there aren't any abusive women, but rather that it would make for a bizarre joke if structured that way: men are usually the aggressors. Humor is essentially the combination of a banal setup with an absurd, unexpected conclusion.

Anyway, that's how I read the original comment, and, aside from the interpretations I rejected as unlikely, I can't think of any other way to read it. If I'm missing something, or you have a different perspective, I would legitimately be interested in hearing it. Thanks in advance!

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