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Re: Show HN: A VNC viewer for eInk devices capable of 30 FPS when writing text

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Do you mean "how am I SSHing to the remarkable"? That's pretty straightforward - follow https://remarkablewiki.com/tech/ssh . I'm just doing it from my laptop. You don't have to SSH though, you can plug a keyboard in as well but that's a little more involved.

Oh I thought you were SSHing to your laptop / server from the Remarkable.

Yeah, you could if you plug a keyboard into the remarkable as it’s just running Linux. The plug position is a bit awkward though.

Re: Show HN: A VNC viewer for eInk devices capable of 30 FPS when writing text

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Imagine where electronic ink displays could be today if E Ink wasn't such a terrible steward of the initial technology.

> Imagine where electronic ink displays could be today if E Ink wasn't such a terrible steward of the initial technology.

What do you mean? Any data or evidence for that?

Re: Show HN: A VNC viewer for eInk devices capable of 30 FPS when writing text

#73

Imagine where electronic ink displays could be today if E Ink wasn't such a terrible steward of the initial technology.

I'd say you might get your wish in about five years, after present patents expire. There will doubtless be new developments, but present devices are absolutely sufficient for e-book reading and most web surfing / tablet tasks, even at monochrome and modest 0.5 -- 16 Hz refresh or so. Higher-quality display is slower to refresh, though almost all instances are well under sub-second. Colour displays are slower as I und…

> after present patents expire.

Which specific patents are you referring to? If you can't answer that question without googling "eink patents", then like many others who've made this claim on HN you're not in the industry and don't actually know anything about electrophoretic chemistry and don't realize what the real obstacles are. See my comment history for details.

Re: Show HN: A VNC viewer for eInk devices capable of 30 FPS when writing text

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say you might get your wish in about five years, after present patents expire. There will doubtless be new developments, but present devices are absolutely sufficient for e-book reading and most web surfing / tablet tasks, even at monochrome and modest 0.5 -- 16 Hz refresh or so. Higher-quality display is slower to refresh, though almost all instances are well under sub-second. Colour displays are slower as I und…

Are you referring to the patent encumbered display tech found in the olpc laptops? Because those were simply phenomenal. I have two and I've never had a display quite their equal in direct sunlight.

> Because those were simply phenomenal. I have two and I've never had a display quite their equal in direct sunlight.

That's odd. I've had and evaluated the XO-1 using Jepsen's displays and found them to be of low quality for even that timeframe. Even basic things like the resolution were terrible for that time. There's good reasons why they (both OLPC and PixelQi) were unsuccessful. OLPC was a disaster and in my opinion just a way to transfer money from the education budgets of developing countries and UN funding into the pockets of people who enjoyed hanging out in swanky incredibly costly offices at 1 Cambridge Way with guys like Nicholas Negroponte, Joi Ito and Jeffrey Epstein instead of actually achieving real progress. [1]

[1] https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/09/05/133159/mit-media...

Re: Show HN: A VNC viewer for eInk devices capable of 30 FPS when writing text

#75

This is great, looks totally usable. I've pursued that eInk life style for about a decade now :) My best setup is with a Dasung Paperlike, but in practice the ergonomics keeps me from using it often (too many things to carry outside and setup). What I hope to see one day is a Linux friendly laptop with an eInk display (frontlit for extra bonus [1]). I wouldn't use it as a replacement, but for quickly grabbing when sp…

This may be interesting for you: https://www.modos.tech/

I just heard about them recently and am curious how the final result will look like.

Re: Show HN: A VNC viewer for eInk devices capable of 30 FPS when writing text

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you referring to the patent encumbered display tech found in the olpc laptops? Because those were simply phenomenal. I have two and I've never had a display quite their equal in direct sunlight.

> Because those were simply phenomenal. I have two and I've never had a display quite their equal in direct sunlight. That's odd. I've had and evaluated the XO-1 using Jepsen's displays and found them to be of low quality for even that timeframe. Even basic things like the resolution were terrible for that time. There's good reasons why they (both OLPC and PixelQi) were unsuccessful. OLPC was a disaster and in my opi…

Direct sunlight being the key part of what I said; I've never had any other display that was so legible while sitting at the end of a dock with a blazing sun blasting straight down upon the screen.

Otherwise, for sure, in general conditions it was mediocre.

And yes, the whole project was sketchy as hell, in retrospect.

Re: Show HN: A VNC viewer for eInk devices capable of 30 FPS when writing text

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I noticed some similarities in the source code to https://github.com/baskerville/plato/ Is there some common source for Kobo-compatable rust code that you both drew from, or was plato the original source? EDIT: Nevermind, should have looked closer, you already called out that you drew from plato > The code responsible for rendering to the eInk display is written by baskerville and taken from https://github.com/basker…

Yes, with his permission.

Re: Show HN: A VNC viewer for eInk devices capable of 30 FPS when writing text

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post #75

This is great, looks totally usable. I've pursued that eInk life style for about a decade now :) My best setup is with a Dasung Paperlike, but in practice the ergonomics keeps me from using it often (too many things to carry outside and setup). What I hope to see one day is a Linux friendly laptop with an eInk display (frontlit for extra bonus [1]). I wouldn't use it as a replacement, but for quickly grabbing when sp…

This may be interesting for you: https://www.modos.tech/ I just heard about them recently and am curious how the final result will look like.

Le voila !

Thanks, that could be just the thing.

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