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Re: Show HN: Browser extension that spoofs your location data to match your VPN

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Recently made this extension and interested in getting some feedback on it. Vytal can Spoof your timezone, locale, geolocation and user agent. This data can be used to track you or reveal your location. Most extensions that provide anti-fingerprinting features rely on content scripts to inject script tags into webpages. There are many limitations to script tag injections which you can read about here: https://palant.…

> It also makes the spoofing completely undetectable. It's my understanding that the usage of the debugger is detectable by scripts running on the page. I've actually come across content websites that will refuse to activate their features (play video) if the debugger is active. Similarly on Android some video streaming apps will refuse to load and play their content catalog if USB debugging is enabled.

How can you detect it? Which websites refuse to activate their features if the debugger is active?

Re: Show HN: Browser extension that spoofs your location data to match your VPN

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The fact that the debugger API is active is almost certainly detectable. I haven't tried recently, but it's been possible in older versions - and I've yet to come across a spoofing tool that I couldn't find a way to detect.

How can you detect it?

Re: Show HN: Browser extension that spoofs your location data to match your VPN

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dont want to dislike firefox, but I am starting to find new reasons to resent it. It seems like every other week there is something new I'm finding out about that gives me pause before running updates. Every new 'feature' brings me further and further away from feeling like it's a browser I can trust to be just a browser. Something has to change. Pocket, Allo, still taking the google allowance, absolutely squanderi…

Allo? I think you confused this with something else if you're referring to Google Allo chat app.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/435884/firefox-hello-is-mozi...

Re: Show HN: Browser extension that spoofs your location data to match your VPN

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dont want to dislike firefox, but I am starting to find new reasons to resent it. It seems like every other week there is something new I'm finding out about that gives me pause before running updates. Every new 'feature' brings me further and further away from feeling like it's a browser I can trust to be just a browser. Something has to change. Pocket, Allo, still taking the google allowance, absolutely squanderi…

But, what will you go to? Chrome is worse by any metric.

qutebrowser, like i said in the comment.

Re: Show HN: Browser extension that spoofs your location data to match your VPN

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Can you explain how Firefox (or Chrome) knows my location within 20m even if I use a VPN? Brave puts me where I think the VPN exit point is. For example: https://wikishootme.toolforge.org/

Many (most?) VPN mechanisms don't entirely remove access to the other routes from apps that manually request them, so even if an app isn't able to use something akin to "location services" on your device it might still easily be able to get access to your other IP addresses by sending requests with sockets manually bound to specific interfaces, and even might choose to lower the priority of information learned using…

> by sending requests with sockets manually bound to specific interfaces

I don’t believe this is possible in client JavaScript within a web browser. Very open to be proved wrong.

Re: Show HN: Browser extension that spoofs your location data to match your VPN

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Modern VPN usage means do not have understood the purpose of a VPN... Using a VPN as a proxy to circumvent geographical block is reasonable to a certain extent, but call them a privacy help, when you do not own the server is ridiculous...

VPNs help with privacy when the alternative is known to be malicious, as most US ISP connections are.

So... An unknown commercial VPN hoster who happen to sell so called now "VPNs", with a siege in British Virgin Island (for instance) is not malicious while a local ISP, obliged to follow national laws you probably know is worse?

It's hard to believe for me...

If I host my VPN for instance to include some remote machines to my LAN, or as a company to offer a LAN to nomadic clients, that's a thing. If I decide to route 100% of my traffic to some servers in exotic locations where no privacy laws exists, where I probably never ever look for a local lawyer just because of lack of norms, language and costs issues, it's IMVHO a crazy choice like those who regularly buy "anti-5G radiation-absorber stickers" or "air purifier" and things like that.

My ISP might spy on me, surely they do, but we have a contract under local laws we both knows, we speak the same language, I have a local lawyer I trust etc. Using something else to circumvent eventual geo-blocks ok, but for the rest? How can I trust more an unknown third from exotic places telling in its advertisement "we care about privacy"?

Re: Show HN: Browser extension that spoofs your location data to match your VPN

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> It also makes the spoofing completely undetectable. It's my understanding that the usage of the debugger is detectable by scripts running on the page. I've actually come across content websites that will refuse to activate their features (play video) if the debugger is active. Similarly on Android some video streaming apps will refuse to load and play their content catalog if USB debugging is enabled.

How can you detect it? Which websites refuse to activate their features if the debugger is active?

I've had the opposite experience: parts of websites broken by tracking blocker started working after popping debugger up.

Re: Show HN: Browser extension that spoofs your location data to match your VPN

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Great project!

However is there any features over just going to developer tools > Sensors > Location and overriding it manually?

Is it just to be able to match your IP automatically ?

I'm currently using it on brave, and there is always an info bar that pops up("Vytal" started debugging this browser session)

Is there a way to permanently dismiss this?, because it pops up with every refresh and its very annoying.

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