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Re: Show HN: No Trash Search

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Post by ramphastidae »

jhugo wrote: post #49
quocanh wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which results are different than Google's?

Most. Yandex is great, especially for programming searches. It generally ranks GitHub, Stack Overflow and other content-heavy sites highly. Google has been taken over by weird clones of GitHub and SO lately, Yandex has no such trash. It completely boggles my mind that the useless GitHub and SO clones rank first page on Google. Do engineers at Google not use their own product?

Engineers at Google build what the ads and sales teams tell them to.

Re: Show HN: No Trash Search

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Post by imglorp »

jhugo wrote: post #49
quocanh wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which results are different than Google's?

Most. Yandex is great, especially for programming searches. It generally ranks GitHub, Stack Overflow and other content-heavy sites highly. Google has been taken over by weird clones of GitHub and SO lately, Yandex has no such trash. It completely boggles my mind that the useless GitHub and SO clones rank first page on Google. Do engineers at Google not use their own product?

> Google has been taken over by weird clones of GitHub and SO lately

Do you have an example search leading to a GitHub clone?

Re: Show HN: No Trash Search

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Post by imglorp »

narrator wrote: post #32
BlueTemplar wrote: post #17

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While I can understand the appeal, restricting your search engine to only ~120 websites out of hundreds of millions (?) is basically giving up on the Web. (BTW, any good search engines these days that aren't indirectly using Google or Bing ?)

There's http://yandex.com . It's great if you want to search controversial subject matter and controversial results that Google wouldn't give you. The reverse image search is also amazing.

The reverse image search in particular is very, very good.

Far better than Bing or Google. It's not obvious why theirs is so terrible, unless that product is not a moneymaker for them, in which case it explains everything.

Re: Show HN: No Trash Search

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Post by SilasX »

rickdeveloper wrote: post #2

I built this website a couple of months ago because I was annoyed by how hard it was to find useful things on Google. As "Google no longer producing high quality search results in significant categories" [0] is currently #1 on the front page I figured I'd share this project again. I hope it's useful to some people. 'No Trash Search' is very focussed on STEM and not "for daily use". It's surprisingly good when you're…

FYI, I think this is just the case where you should prefix the submission title with “Show HN:”. Can mods update it so it shows with the others? @dang?

https://news.ycombinator.com/show

https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html

Re: Show HN: No Trash Search

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Post by msrenee »

jhugo wrote: post #49
quocanh wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which results are different than Google's?

Most. Yandex is great, especially for programming searches. It generally ranks GitHub, Stack Overflow and other content-heavy sites highly. Google has been taken over by weird clones of GitHub and SO lately, Yandex has no such trash. It completely boggles my mind that the useless GitHub and SO clones rank first page on Google. Do engineers at Google not use their own product?

Don't have time to mess with it right now, but does it normally return about half results in Russian or is that something my phone/browser is doing?

Re: Show HN: No Trash Search

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Post by jerf »

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #33
BlueTemplar wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I can understand the appeal, restricting your search engine to only ~120 websites out of hundreds of millions (?) is basically giving up on the Web. (BTW, any good search engines these days that aren't indirectly using Google or Bing ?)

"(BTW, any good search engines these days that aren't indirectly using Google or Bing ?)" The code for Gigablast is open-source, including the crawler. I could be wrong but I do not think search.marginalia.eu nor wiby.me use Google or Bing. The comment about "hundreds of millions" is interesting. Assume hypothetically a search engline claimed to be searching millions of sites for a given query but in truth it was act…

"How would a user verify the search engine's claim about searching millions of sites was true."

Search for things specifically on those pages, by very specific phrases and such.

Of course you have to find them yourself first for that verification.

I can say having set up some very teeny tiny websites here and there that the googlebot is hooked up to a lot of stuff. I'm not even sure how it found a couple of them as quickly as it did. Things like "if someone adds an RSS feed to Feed.ly" seem to do the trick. None of them were sites trying to "hide" or anything and I expected them to be found eventually, but they got found much faster than I expected. Or maybe they just scan new domain registrations, though it seemed to me it wasn't that that triggered it.

Re: Show HN: No Trash Search

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Post by pronoiac »

SilasX wrote: post #75
rickdeveloper wrote: post #2

I built this website a couple of months ago because I was annoyed by how hard it was to find useful things on Google. As "Google no longer producing high quality search results in significant categories" [0] is currently #1 on the front page I figured I'd share this project again. I hope it's useful to some people. 'No Trash Search' is very focussed on STEM and not "for daily use". It's surprisingly good when you're…

FYI, I think this is just the case where you should prefix the submission title with “Show HN:”. Can mods update it so it shows with the others? @dang? https://news.ycombinator.com/show https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html

I emailed this suggestion to the mods.

Re: Show HN: No Trash Search

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Post by throw_away »

rickdeveloper wrote: post #66
throw_away wrote: post #28

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It would be cool if I could take my existing browser history, aggregate by domain, sort by frequency & then create the necessary xml for the programmable search. Maybe with a pick & choose UI so I could decide which sites I wanted. Right now, looking at your allow-list config, it feels a bit custom to you, but if I had an easy way to limit search to the sites I myself know and trust, I could see how that would be use…

Good idea! Would you pay for a premium version where you can customize the whitelist (and additional features) if it were available? Bing charges around $5 per 1000 searches, so I guess it would cost about the same. (Google's API is limited to 10K searches / day, even when paid)

I think just the history->xml conversion would be a bit of a hard sell, but I would be willing to pay for a sub if there were some additional features like:

* easy add to my filter list (like maybe a browser plugin so I can see that the current site isn't in my filter, but I can click a button and now it's in my filter & opposite for remove for when sites start to suck)

* stats on which sites I visit after searching

* aggregate bing+google filtered searches

* curated site lists for different topics, top 100, etc. Maybe like a temporary search using these sets such that I can try them without affecting my own filters. Maybe sharing lists w friends

* some sort of search anonymization/log deletion feature

* integration with browser search on desktop & mobile

* search flags like duckduckgo so I can easily switch filter sets by typing like /news or /nerdshit in the query

* integration with archive.ph & wayback machine

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