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Re: Show HN: Smozzy (for Android/T-Mobile) - browse the web without a data plan

#71

This is gonna get shut down so fast...

I'd be surprised if so, the userbase is probably going to be pretty tiny. It's not really easy to get an Android phone without a data plan (although it's possible), and there's not really any reason to use it otherwise, other than initial curiosity.

I can't find it searching for smozzy in the market or by clicking the link on the webpage, so...

Re: Show HN: Smozzy (for Android/T-Mobile) - browse the web without a data plan

#72

This is gonna get shut down so fast...

I'd be surprised if so, the userbase is probably going to be pretty tiny. It's not really easy to get an Android phone without a data plan (although it's possible), and there's not really any reason to use it otherwise, other than initial curiosity.

Oh wait, I missed the US only part. That's why.

Re: Show HN: Smozzy (for Android/T-Mobile) - browse the web without a data plan

#74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd be surprised if so, the userbase is probably going to be pretty tiny. It's not really easy to get an Android phone without a data plan (although it's possible), and there's not really any reason to use it otherwise, other than initial curiosity.

I can't find it searching for smozzy in the market or by clicking the link on the webpage, so...

That's odd. It might not show up in your Market search if you don't live in the US (I set it to US only since it won't work for anyone else) or if your device doesn't have the required capabilities for the app (telephony and touchscreen). No idea why you wouldn't be able to get to it using the direct link, though.

Re: Show HN: Smozzy (for Android/T-Mobile) - browse the web without a data plan

#75

3 2 1 ... no unlimited text plan

T-Mobile's terms (and I would presume other carriers) already say they can cut your unlimited text off if you're using it as some sort of automated gateway. This is meant to keep you from using your cheap text plan as a commercial SMS service (ex: Twitter), they could cut this off as well.

Re: Show HN: Smozzy (for Android/T-Mobile) - browse the web without a data plan

#76

This is gonna get shut down so fast...

I'd be surprised if so, the userbase is probably going to be pretty tiny. It's not really easy to get an Android phone without a data plan (although it's possible), and there's not really any reason to use it otherwise, other than initial curiosity.

I think it could be handy in places where T-Mobile doesn't have data coverage.

Re: Show HN: Smozzy (for Android/T-Mobile) - browse the web without a data plan

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One of these days, the network providers are going to stop putting arbitrary labels on their data, as though "voice", "text" and "data" are not all travelling through the same towers and pipes.

Actually, there is a distinction to the carrier. Text messages are an interesting one. Essentially, they cost nothing to the carrier in that they get transmitted as part of the control channel. However, there is a cost to supporting a phone idling on a network. The control channel has to be in communication with it using up bandwidth. So, the SMS gets put in with the control channel instructions and so its marginal c…

"Essentially, they cost nothing to the carrier in that they get transmitted as part of the control channel. "

That was true at one point, but the popularity of SMS has completely swamped the capacity of the control channels.

Re: Show HN: Smozzy (for Android/T-Mobile) - browse the web without a data plan

#80

Do you use compression at all or is it straight uncompressed HTTP via SMS? Or something else entirely? This is wonderful for it's creative (mis)use of texting...

The requests (which are just URLs, and any postdata/cookies if applicable) are sent to my server via SMS. The responses are sent back to the phone via MMS, in up to 5 (I think?) segments. I download the webpage along with all resources (stylesheets, images, etc.) and put everything in a zip file. I encode the zip file as a PNG (each RGB pixel is 3 bytes of the zip file) and send the PNG in the MMS.

You really can't think outside of the box any more than that.

This is so impressive.

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