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Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Post by pgt »

rodw wrote: post #2

Hi everyone. I'd like to introduce you to a side project I've been working on for a little while now. FATpick ( https://www.fatpick.com/ ) is a practice tool for guitar (and bass) that helps you learn to play new songs, improve your skills and stay motivated to keep playing. It's an auto-scrolling tablature viewer, synchronized with backing tracks, that listens as you play along with any guitar, providing immediate f…

I can't get the sound to work on the demo video, and there is no link to the Vimeo hosting.

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Post by rodw »

danielvinson wrote: post #59

I tried this out and I really just need a way to manually set the latency. My recording computer only has an audio interface with no monitors (just headphones) and I pretty much can't use this software because you don't seem to support ASIO input or manual latency settings.

You can manually set the latency using the button on the bottom of that screen.

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Post by rodw »

ragazzina wrote: post #70
rodw wrote: post #2

Hi everyone. I'd like to introduce you to a side project I've been working on for a little while now. FATpick ( https://www.fatpick.com/ ) is a practice tool for guitar (and bass) that helps you learn to play new songs, improve your skills and stay motivated to keep playing. It's an auto-scrolling tablature viewer, synchronized with backing tracks, that listens as you play along with any guitar, providing immediate f…

Have you considered supporting ukulele tabs?

There's actually nothing stopping you from importing and playing uke tabs right now.

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Post by rodw »

scoutt wrote: post #65
rodw wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's great feedback, thanks. To clarify: it is totally free to download and use right now and will continue to be for at least several months. Eventually payment will be required, probably in the form of a subscription plan.

> subscription plan Please reconsider this. If this is a local app, then I see no reason for adopting a subscription plan. I am interested, but right now guitar is a hobby I can afford only a couple of times a week. Paying a subscription would have a different impact on, who like me, is an occasional player. Otherwise I can stick with Guitar Pro for eternity.

Guitar Pro's list price is more than the likely cost of an annual subscription to FATpick.

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Post by jeswin »

rodw wrote: post #74
scoutt wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> subscription plan Please reconsider this. If this is a local app, then I see no reason for adopting a subscription plan. I am interested, but right now guitar is a hobby I can afford only a couple of times a week. Paying a subscription would have a different impact on, who like me, is an occasional player. Otherwise I can stick with Guitar Pro for eternity.

Guitar Pro's list price is more than the likely cost of an annual subscription to FATpick.

I do all my graphics editing with a Fireworks CS4, bought ten years back. I use it rarely, so the one time payment worked wonders. In almost every way I prefer apps that I completely own - especially if it's locally installed. And I'd be willing to pay a higher price upfront if there was such an option.

Note: I am not saying that your annual plan would be overpriced or unaffordable.

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Post by rodw »

ShamelessC wrote: post #63

Running into problems on MacOS Catalina 10.15.2 (MacBook Pro 2019 16" model). My mic isn't being detected for some reason. I tried messing with the settings and running the "Latency Calibration" but it just says "We were unable to measure the system latency". Can't determine what's wrong as GarageBand and the System Preferences both show it as working. Also, just a minor bug I found - if you have a song already loade…

1) Are you using the built in mic or an external one?

2) By "not detected" do you mean "doesn't appear in the list of audio input devices" or "doesn't seem to hear me playing"?

There is an input monitor (input volume meter) on the player and in the audio settings view. If there is a signal getting thru then that meter should be moving.

If FATpick is hearing your mic but not detecting any notes then the troubleshooting guide at https://www.fatpick.com/support/troubleshooting has some tips that might help.

If the mic is seen as an input device but the audio signal isn't getting thru then you could check that both the system (sound control panel) and FATpick (settings > audio) have the input volume turned up high enough.

If there mic is not seen as an input device at all I don't have any troubleshooting advice off the top of my head (short of using a different input device).

If you can't solve the problem feel free to contact me as rod@ or using the contract form on the website. I'd be happy to help you troubleshoot the issue.

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Post by rodw »

dcist wrote: post #58

I love the idea for this (and for Yousician), but it never works for me. If the note recognition by the software isn't at least 95%, I feel like I'm wasting my time and it's just an exercise in frustration. I tried using FatPick with both (1) a Rocksmith USB guitar cable hooked directly into my guitar; and (2) a microphone picking up my amped guitar externally. And for both connections, I didn't think that the note r…

Thanks for the feedback.

Pitch detection can be tricky and system dependent but when it's not working at all (or missing most of the notes you are playing) the root cause is usually one of a few common problems. The troubleshooting guide at https://www.fatpick.com/support/troubleshooting may help.

If you want to experiment some you can enable the advanced settings (under General) which will add the Audio Analysis options to the main settings menu. There are a lot of knobs you can turn on that screen to adjust how the audio analysis works, and you can test the pitch detection from that screen.

There are actually a bunch of additional options, including alternative pitch detection algorithms that are included but not exposed on that screen. If you reach out to me (rod@ or using the contact form on the web) I'd be happy to try to help get it to work for you.

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Post by exDM69 »

rodw wrote: post #37
jfk13 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I spent a while trying to figure out if this was free (not just to download, but to use fully) or would require some kind of paid account. Maybe you could make that clearer?

That's great feedback, thanks. To clarify: it is totally free to download and use right now and will continue to be for at least several months. Eventually payment will be required, probably in the form of a subscription plan.

If your business model is a subscription plan, you're putting yourself in a market with established competitors that have much higher quality (right now) software and content.

You really oughta do the math, consider how many subscribers you might be able to attain and how much to charge and whether that makes your ends meet.

You've probably already considered the licensing fees of the sheet music and/or background audio. Just getting into a discussion with the copyright holders is going to be an uphill battle when you're not the first mover in the field.

All the best to your project, I might give it a try later.

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Post by rodw »

jeswin wrote: post #75
rodw wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Guitar Pro's list price is more than the likely cost of an annual subscription to FATpick.

I do all my graphics editing with a Fireworks CS4, bought ten years back. I use it rarely, so the one time payment worked wonders. In almost every way I prefer apps that I completely own - especially if it's locally installed. And I'd be willing to pay a higher price upfront if there was such an option. Note: I am not saying that your annual plan would be overpriced or unaffordable.

I appreciate your input. It's worth some thought.

Just to be clear FATpick is not strictly a local app. It's more like a fat client - a local app that depends on part on services in the cloud.

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Post by obituary_latte »

nsxwolf wrote: post #60
rodw wrote: post #2

Hi everyone. I'd like to introduce you to a side project I've been working on for a little while now. FATpick ( https://www.fatpick.com/ ) is a practice tool for guitar (and bass) that helps you learn to play new songs, improve your skills and stay motivated to keep playing. It's an auto-scrolling tablature viewer, synchronized with backing tracks, that listens as you play along with any guitar, providing immediate f…

The video won't play for me, shows the play icon with a slash through it, on Safari on High Safari. Any alternate link?

Looks like it’s webm which doesn’t work on ios safari. I couldn’t find a link to an alternative version in the source unfortunately.
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