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Re: Show HN: Ananas – a hackable data tool for beginners

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Post by sails »

This is great.

Things to keep on your radar:

Meltano spun out of Gitlab is working in this domain, I think they are making progress. https://meltano.com/

dbt are building the transformation engine that Meltano is using (I think), and are worth keeping an eye on https://www.getdbt.com/

In my experience the issue with this domain isn't the "one-off" analysis, but rather orchestrating the BI function across the business, maintaining the single source of truth, testing and deploying across the ETL/ELT layers. I can't speak to how well Ananas is managing these but Meltano and dbt are giving this area a lot of thought.

Re: Show HN: Ananas – a hackable data tool for beginners

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Post by wiremine »

mtarnovan wrote: post #62

This looks a bit like https://metabase.com -- anyone used both and can make a comparison?

Curious if anyone has used Metabase for serious work and can comment on it. I tried setting it up and got frustrated pretty quickly with the UX. It looks slick, but the mental model was confusing...

Re: Show HN: Ananas – a hackable data tool for beginners

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Post by techie128 »

henrikschroder wrote: post #3
overcast wrote: post #2

My unprofessional professional opinion. The product looks great, but the name has to go. I can't imagine pronouncing that, let alone communicating it over a phone. Any simple word before analytics would be better. Edit: pineapplytics is the obvious cute and available one, however may still be difficult to communicate.

Fun fact: Only the English language calls the fruit "pineapple", almost every other language calls it "ananas" or similar.

Its called "ananas" in Marathi as well. Marathi is a regional language in India.

Re: Show HN: Ananas – a hackable data tool for beginners

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Post by djmips »

millboh wrote: post #38
codetrotter wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Parent commenter linked to their GitHub repo. Redash is open source under the terms of the two-clause BSD license. (Maybe they edited to add link, maybe you overlooked it?)

Oh, sorry about that, my bad. I just looked through redash home page, but didn't find the open source link

redash source <- search

Re: Show HN: Ananas – a hackable data tool for beginners

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Post by djmips »

overcast wrote: post #2

My unprofessional professional opinion. The product looks great, but the name has to go. I can't imagine pronouncing that, let alone communicating it over a phone. Any simple word before analytics would be better. Edit: pineapplytics is the obvious cute and available one, however may still be difficult to communicate.

your opinion is bananas

Re: Show HN: Ananas – a hackable data tool for beginners

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Post by btown »

wiremine wrote: post #72
mtarnovan wrote: post #62

This looks a bit like https://metabase.com -- anyone used both and can make a comparison?

Curious if anyone has used Metabase for serious work and can comment on it. I tried setting it up and got frustrated pretty quickly with the UX. It looks slick, but the mental model was confusing...

My startup seriously evaluated Metabase, but inevitably you'll want joins, and Metabase is fundamentally opposed to the idea: https://metabase.com/blog/Joins/ ... and if you're writing SQL for your views, you might as well be writing SQL.

We ended up shelling out for Tableau - it's pricey at $840/yr, but it supports joins out of the box (it even has a drag-and-drop interface to set up joins!), has practically every bell and whistle you could ask for, and allows you to do "exploratory analysis over screenshare in realtime with non-technical colleagues, without context switching to a coding mindset or needing to look up field names you may never have used before." I think it's intuitive and worth every penny, but YMMV. Would recommend everyone try the public version to get a feel for it.

EDIT: as others have said, Ananas is actually ETL + BI, whereas Metabase and Tableau are BI on top of a database. Tableau can stand in for good ETL due to its join support in certain scenarios. It's better than Metabase, but not necessarily comparable to Ananas.

Re: Show HN: Ananas – a hackable data tool for beginners

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Post by getsauce »

btown wrote: post #76
wiremine wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Curious if anyone has used Metabase for serious work and can comment on it. I tried setting it up and got frustrated pretty quickly with the UX. It looks slick, but the mental model was confusing...

My startup seriously evaluated Metabase, but inevitably you'll want joins, and Metabase is fundamentally opposed to the idea: https://metabase.com/blog/Joins/ ... and if you're writing SQL for your views, you might as well be writing SQL. We ended up shelling out for Tableau - it's pricey at $840/yr, but it supports joins out of the box (it even has a drag-and-drop interface to set up joins!), has practically every b…

Metabase added joins to query builder in a recent release: https://github.com/metabase/metabase/releases/tag/v0.33.0-pr...

Re: Show HN: Ananas – a hackable data tool for beginners

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Post by millboh »

mingabunga wrote: post #61

Thought about adding some words to the data output using natural language generation? Eg arria.com or other nlg vendor?

Excellent idea. We've though about Machine learning transformer including NLP . This NLG is something which would definitively nice to have. Please create an issue and we will prioritize it.

Re: Show HN: Ananas – a hackable data tool for beginners

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Post by chrsstrm »

At what scale has this been tested? As in, are you aware of any data file size limits? I have a csv with ~6M rows and when paging through the docs the "Exploring your data source" gave me pause thinking this app might try and open all 6M rows at once. Will I be OK importing such a large source or will my computer turn into a space heater before refusing to respond?
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