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Re: Show HN: No Coin – A browser extension to block coin miners

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I loved using those tools, but I think many browser extensions today are more involved than small shim scripts. A lot of them have CRUD operations, data editing interfaces, css/image assets, etc. I was thinking about something a bit more composed like create-react-app.

I wrote a grease monkey script that allowed you to annotate a website and save the notes permanently to local storage. It had all of the above features. The only real limitation is the sandboxing.

Do you have a link to the script? Sounds like something I'd use.

Re: Show HN: No Coin – A browser extension to block coin miners

#72

Today I read that The Pirate Bay tested this new form of monetization (running a miner in you browser). I thought that might solve website monetization finally. We still have to figure out stuff like battery draining on mobile but it is the first step and I can buy some Monero which is well suited for JS/CPU mining (or in other words, it doesn't have a huge upside when mined on GPUs). And what do I see here? That bef…

I don't know. If you run those on a laptop you pretty much kill battery life, same thing with phones.

If HTML5's battery API ever became a thing, this issue could be solved without any user interaction.

Re: Show HN: No Coin – A browser extension to block coin miners

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As long as there is disclosure of it and the mining is relatively efficient, that is a very interesting business model. The site collects revenue relative to the amount of time users spend on the site and not the number of page/ad views. It is also a pretty seamless way to integrate micropayments from users into a site. Handing over a credit card number or similar is a big barrier to overcome while this requires no s…

I'd definitely prefer this to ads in a world where phone software and hardware improved energy capacity and efficiency at a faster rate than applications bloat. I don't think we've reached that point yet. An iPhone doesn't last a single day if you use it the whole time, it would barely last for hours mining constantly.

To add one more question to the one raverbashing posted: How long do you even keep TPB in the background on your phone for it to consume your entire battery?

Re: Show HN: No Coin – A browser extension to block coin miners

#74

Today I read that The Pirate Bay tested this new form of monetization (running a miner in you browser). I thought that might solve website monetization finally. We still have to figure out stuff like battery draining on mobile but it is the first step and I can buy some Monero which is well suited for JS/CPU mining (or in other words, it doesn't have a huge upside when mined on GPUs). And what do I see here? That bef…

better than ads and trackers, i agree. but shortly we'll be getting all three.

And this is why we can't have nice things.

Re: Show HN: No Coin – A browser extension to block coin miners

#75
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Paying 50 cents requires you to keep their mining browser tab open for around a week with your CPU churning. Somehow I don't think that's the solution.

WebAssembly with OpenGL could change this.

No it won't. If everyone is mining more efficiently then the difficulty will rise.

Re: Show HN: No Coin – A browser extension to block coin miners

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I don't know. If you run those on a laptop you pretty much kill battery life, same thing with phones.

If HTML5's battery API ever became a thing, this issue could be solved without any user interaction.

Can you elaborate how?

Re: Show HN: No Coin – A browser extension to block coin miners

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post #72

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I don't know. If you run those on a laptop you pretty much kill battery life, same thing with phones.

If HTML5's battery API ever became a thing, this issue could be solved without any user interaction.

I would not expect miners to voluntarily stop mining just because the user agent reports low battery. Any miners that care about mobile users could check the user agent string and throttle mining.

Re: Show HN: No Coin – A browser extension to block coin miners

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If HTML5's battery API ever became a thing, this issue could be solved without any user interaction.

Can you elaborate how?

"is this user on a mobile device or laptop? Don't mine."

Re: Show HN: No Coin – A browser extension to block coin miners

#79

Wait, people are actually doing this? Using client-side resources not to deliver content or applications to clients, or even to visibly deliver things like advertisements, but to divert user CPU cycles for their own purposes? I want to know more about this. Are they seeking any kind of consent from the users, or even disclosing it to the users? If not, I have serious doubts about the legality of this behavior.

What law do you think would prohibit this?

Re: Show HN: No Coin – A browser extension to block coin miners

#80

Today I read that The Pirate Bay tested this new form of monetization (running a miner in you browser). I thought that might solve website monetization finally. We still have to figure out stuff like battery draining on mobile but it is the first step and I can buy some Monero which is well suited for JS/CPU mining (or in other words, it doesn't have a huge upside when mined on GPUs). And what do I see here? That bef…

I agree that this is a possible solution to ads issues.
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