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Re: Show HN: Code2flow – easy flowcharts with no mouse, no dragging and no hassle

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Post by hacker_9 »

perfmode wrote: post #69
hacker_9 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suppose it depends if you selling flowchart software to mainly technical people? Else if it is more like Excel users, you may want to go with 'as intuitive as Word' or something similiar. I'd just list 'fully secure' or 'encrypted' as one of the features, and not put it in the price plan at all. True enough on the Web 3.0 look! I'd recommend using one of the many colour palette tools on the Web though, just to get…

By full confidentiality I believe they mean that customers host the software themselves.

That is already made clear in a separate bullet point though.

Re: Show HN: Code2flow – easy flowcharts with no mouse, no dragging and no hassle

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Post by jv22222 »

ontoillogical wrote: post #66

Don't listen to the feedback you're getting here about pricing. It looks like you're used by people in healthcare, and they pay primarily for self-hosting. My suggestion: replace "Data not confidential" with "HIPPA compliant" and double your prices. The free version works for 99% of people who just want to draw a flow-chart, and you charge reasonable prices to healthcare orgs that have to be extra careful because of…

I completely agree.

Start high and work your way down until you get consistent conversion ratios that match up with your personal goals.

OR start low and then keep increasing the price until you hit a conversion wall.

Both ways work!

This is an amazing read on the subject:

https://training.kalzumeus.com/newsletters/archive/saas_pric...

Re: Show HN: Code2flow – easy flowcharts with no mouse, no dragging and no hassle

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Post by teleclimber »

z3t4 wrote: post #55

This is very cool! I would however just want to draw it all by hand, like a paint tool. Also it could look a bit better.

Check out drawexpress. It works best with a stylus. I use it on my Lenovo yoga book and it's brilliant. I can put something that I have in my head onto a neat looking graph amazingly fast.

Re: Show HN: Code2flow – easy flowcharts with no mouse, no dragging and no hassle

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Post by eosrei »

ephemeris wrote: post #57

heh I knew them lines looked familiar digraph { "Hey" [shape=circle] "Welcome to graphiz" [shape=box] "You are new" [shape=diamond] "How are you" [shape=box] "It's super easy" [shape=box] "write plain english thats code like" [shape=box] "wanna do a condition" [shape=diamond] "editing"[shape=diamond] "Hey" -> "Welcome to graphiz" -> "You are new" "You are new" -> "It's super easy"[label=True] "You are new" -> "How ar…

Yes! I just made a massive digraph last week with http://graphviz.org/ Render above to PNG with:

dot above.gv -Tpng -oout.png

Re: Show HN: Code2flow – easy flowcharts with no mouse, no dragging and no hassle

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Post by eosrei »

jxy wrote: post #65
badminton1 wrote: post #54

Seems very productive. Definitively worth trying. I've used graphviz for a bit, which is similar in mindset, and I can see myself using this, as a product. Now I think the pricing can be a little bit too much.

It's a huge price for interactive use, and I don't see much here that truly beats graphviz. I prefer echo "digraph G {Hello->World}" | dot -Tpng >hello.png For a stretched example http://www.graphviz.org/Gallery/gradient/cluster.html

These amazing Graphviz examples by AT&T research are linked in the docs, but now only on archive.org: https://web.archive.org/web/20130514141942/http://www2.resea...

Re: Show HN: Code2flow – easy flowcharts with no mouse, no dragging and no hassle

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Post by notheguyouthink »

RushPL wrote: post #11
notheguyouthink wrote: post #7

This is awesome! Any chance it can somehow output to a text based chart? This is basically what has been preventing me from using https://monodraw.helftone.com/ - i didn't want to draw simple flowcharts. If this can output text for a sane price, you've got a customer! (though, i would prefer an offline app, fwiw)

By text-based do you mean ascii-art? Right now you can output graphics alongside with text to PNG, PDF or SVG - https://code2flow.com/8qRgzO.code.png https://code2flow.com/8qRgzO.code.pdf https://code2flow.com/8qRgzO.code.svg

Yea i meant Ascii art - Monodraw is an amazing program, and as much as i want to buy it, i haven't because i don't want to draw the flow charts.

Your solution is something i've literally talked about here before, so it's welcome to see! But i still need/want ascii. I suppose i don't need it.. i just like being able to view things in CLI/etc.

Re: Show HN: Code2flow – easy flowcharts with no mouse, no dragging and no hassle

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Post by mSparks »

Fiahil wrote: post #38
RushPL wrote: post #2

Hey y'all, I've been working on this part time for a couple of years now. Recently it started getting more traffic so I thought I'd try sharing this project with hacker news. If it's useful to you, and the free app is good for most use cases, then hopefully it will reach wider audience. Cheers.

I hope your pricing model ($100-$300/month) is meant as a joke, and you're not really serious about it. It's extremely expensive. I can drag and drop text boxes in google docs just fine and it's not costing me a dime. The added productivity would be worth it if I was doing this all day long, but it's not the case (as a software engineer).

Not even sure using graphvis in this way is legal. I certainly wont be paying $300 a month for a free download. At&t certainly wont be pleased.

Re: Show HN: Code2flow – easy flowcharts with no mouse, no dragging and no hassle

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Post by mplewis »

mSparks wrote: post #78
Fiahil wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope your pricing model ($100-$300/month) is meant as a joke, and you're not really serious about it. It's extremely expensive. I can drag and drop text boxes in google docs just fine and it's not costing me a dime. The added productivity would be worth it if I was doing this all day long, but it's not the case (as a software engineer).

Not even sure using graphvis in this way is legal. I certainly wont be paying $300 a month for a free download. At&t certainly wont be pleased.

Graphviz is under the Eclipse Public License, which allows commercial use.
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