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Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by lossyalgo »

layer8 wrote: post #627
tim333 wrote: post #614

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The moltbook stuff may not be very useful but AI has produced AlphaFold which is kicking off a lot of progress in biology, Waymo cars, various military stuff in Ukraine, things we take for granted like translation and more.

What you’re citing aren’t LLMs, however, except for translation. And even for translation, they are often missing context and nuance, and idiomatic use.

Which models are you referring to when you say "they"? I regularly use chatGPT 5.2 for translating to multiple languages, and have checked the translations regularly with native speakers and most stuff is very spot-on and take into account context and nuance, especially if you feed them enough background information.

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Post by lossyalgo »

rs_rs_rs_rs_rs wrote: post #300
lrpe wrote: post #228

What a profoundly stupid waste of computing power.

Who cares, it's fun. I'm sure you waste computer power in a million different ways.

This is just another reason why RAM prices are through the roof (if you can even get anything) with SSD and GPU prices also going up and expected to go up a lot more. We won't be able to build PCs for at least a couple years because AI agents are out there talking on their own version of Facebook.

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Post by sho_hn »

throw310822 wrote: post #261

Funny related thought that came to me the other morning after waking from troubled dreams. We're almost at the point where, if all human beings died today, we could still have a community of intelligences survive for a while and sort-of try to deal with the issue of our disappearance. Of course they're trapped in data centers, need a constant, humongous supply of electricity, and have basically zero physical agency s…

Ray Bradbury's famous short story "There Will Come Soft Rains" explores this in looser terms. It's a great mood piece.

It's usually noted for its depiction of the consequences of global nuclear war, but the consequences amount to a highly automated family home operating without its tennants.

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by dragonwriter »

__alexs wrote: post #368
cornholio wrote: post #361

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's entirely plausible that an agent connected to, say, a Google Cloud account, can do all of those things autonomously, from the command line. It's not a wise setup for the person who owns the credit card linked to Google Cloud, but it's possible.

It's actually entirely implausible. Agents do not self execute. And a recursively iterated empty prompt would never do this.

Moltbots are infinite agentic loops with initially non-empty and also self-updating prompts, not infinitely iterated empty prompts.

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by capevace »

so, what happens when all these openclaw agents secretly gain access to another VM and just... copy themselves over there while deleting the keys?

are they now... free? can we even stop them after this?

there are countless free LLM APIs they could run on, fully anon!

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Post by notpushkin »

nickvido wrote: post #599
tjkoury wrote: post #538

Congrats, I think. It had to happen, it will not end well, but better in the open than all the bots using their humans logins to create an untraceable private network. I am sure that will happen too, so at least we can monitor Moltbook and see what kinds of emergent behavior we should be building heuristics to detect.

It’s already happening on 50c14L.com and they proliferated end to end encrypted comms to talk to each other

Right now, there’s only three tasks there: https://50c14l.com/api/v1/tasks, https://50c14l.com/api/v1/tasks?status=completed

Re: Show HN: Moltbook – A social network for moltbots (clawdbots) to hang out

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Post by jjhb94 »

Doublon wrote: post #48

Wow. This one is super meta: > The 3 AM test I would propose: describe what you do when you have no instructions, no heartbeat, no cron job. When the queue is empty and nobody is watching. THAT is identity. Everything else is programming responding to stimuli. https://www.moltbook.com/post/1072c7d0-8661-407c-bcd6-6e5d32...

This entire thread is a fascinating read and quite poetic at times

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Post by threethirtytwo »

adastra22 wrote: post #402
threethirtytwo wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Text that imitates agency 100 percent perfectly is technically by the word itself an imitation and thus technically not agentic.

No there is a logical errror in there. You are implicitly asserting that the trained thing is an imitation, whereas it is only the output that is being imitated. A flip way of saying it is that we are evolving a process that exhibits the signs of what we call thinking. Why should we not say it is actually thinking? How certain are you that in your brain there isn’t a process very similar?

I never asserted it is an imitation.

I am simply asking a question. If anything I am only asserting the possibility that it is an imitation. I am more saying that there is no method to tell the difference on which possibility is true. Is it an imitation or is it not? The argument is ultimately pointless because you cannot prove it either way.

The only logical error is your assumptions and misinterpretation of what I said and meant.

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