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Re: Show HN: RemoteCoder.io – A jobsite for remote programmers

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Post by zerr »

hiddentao wrote: post #43
zerr wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Advice: Please remove "Enforce Github authentication" functionality. Don't help popularizing "Github is your CV" bullshit. Also, since you're just starting, limiting your userbase is the last thing you want to achieve...

I added that in for 2 reasons: 1) I usually get client work based on my github profile, i.e. they like what they see there, and 2) nowadays almost every job ad I see looking for remote web developer asks for a github id. I appreciate that not everyone has or even cares about Github which is why it's an optional item when posting an ad. However, one of the differentiating factors of RemoteCoder is that it provides for…

OK, but why only this particular service? If you insist on having some "show me your code" requirement, why not support: bitbucket, sf.net, etc... ? and also just providing tarball of sources.

Re: Show HN: RemoteCoder.io – A jobsite for remote programmers

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Post by Touche »

wastedhours wrote: post #18
alexchamberlain wrote: post #7

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Why do you think it's bullshit?

Lots of developers do really great work in their day jobs committing code to closed source projects, or have private projects in a different VCS/Git location (such as a personal GitLab install). Whilst worthy, a developer's contributions to OSS or public code commits aren't the only determining factor of their quality/hireability.

It's not the only determining factor, but seeing someone's code is the best way to know that they are good at it. And GitHub is the best place to publish code for this purpose.

From a purely practical perspective, being a developer who exclusively works on closed-source code in 2014 is a bad career decision.

Re: Show HN: RemoteCoder.io – A jobsite for remote programmers

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

Touche wrote: post #62
wastedhours wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lots of developers do really great work in their day jobs committing code to closed source projects, or have private projects in a different VCS/Git location (such as a personal GitLab install). Whilst worthy, a developer's contributions to OSS or public code commits aren't the only determining factor of their quality/hireability.

It's not the only determining factor, but seeing someone's code is the best way to know that they are good at it. And GitHub is the best place to publish code for this purpose. From a purely practical perspective, being a developer who exclusively works on closed-source code in 2014 is a bad career decision.

Pretty broad conclusion. I get jobs by reference, have for 20 years. No open-source code. Not ever been an issue.

Re: Show HN: RemoteCoder.io – A jobsite for remote programmers

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Post by Touche »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #63
Touche wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not the only determining factor, but seeing someone's code is the best way to know that they are good at it. And GitHub is the best place to publish code for this purpose. From a purely practical perspective, being a developer who exclusively works on closed-source code in 2014 is a bad career decision.

Pretty broad conclusion. I get jobs by reference, have for 20 years. No open-source code. Not ever been an issue.

Then you're not applying to job boards and are not applicable to this conversation.

Re: Show HN: RemoteCoder.io – A jobsite for remote programmers

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Post by acallaghan »

MCRed wrote: post #48

Call me old school, but I've always felt the term "coder" was a diminutive, while "programmer" (as used in the title) is more appropriate. I think of a coder as someone mindlessly implementing logic that someone else has laid out before them... while a programmer is someone who comprehends the problem, develops an algorithm and implements it. Of course, these days with so much work being about setting up a UI on what…

I fear that 'coder' is akin to 'lab geeks' for scientists etc. It suggests that all that's needed is code (or pipetting test tubes), rather than it being part of a larger engineering discipline.

In my experience, those terms are mostly used by people who don't understand what you're doing (or in this case, the domain was available)

Re: Show HN: RemoteCoder.io – A jobsite for remote programmers

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Post by hiddentao »

zerr wrote: post #61
hiddentao wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I added that in for 2 reasons: 1) I usually get client work based on my github profile, i.e. they like what they see there, and 2) nowadays almost every job ad I see looking for remote web developer asks for a github id. I appreciate that not everyone has or even cares about Github which is why it's an optional item when posting an ad. However, one of the differentiating factors of RemoteCoder is that it provides for…

OK, but why only this particular service? If you insist on having some "show me your code" requirement, why not support: bitbucket, sf.net, etc... ? and also just providing tarball of sources.

Very true. I was limited by time and also didn't want to add in more integrations until I obtained some feedback. At the moment RemoteCoder is a small experiment - now that I'm getting feedback I can take it in a more fruitful direction than I would have been able to otherwise.

Re: Show HN: RemoteCoder.io – A jobsite for remote programmers

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

Touche wrote: post #64
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty broad conclusion. I get jobs by reference, have for 20 years. No open-source code. Not ever been an issue.

Then you're not applying to job boards and are not applicable to this conversation.

I work remotely for many jobs; have for years. So yes I could be interested in this job board. But its built to suit others I guess - targeted at a subset of opportunities. That's all.

Re: Show HN: RemoteCoder.io – A jobsite for remote programmers

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Post by hiddentao »

MCRed wrote: post #58
hiddentao wrote: post #2

Hi, this is my first potentially revenue-generating project, that I built in 2 weeks. There are still a few features missing (e.g. CV upload) but the general functionality is there - including the Github authentication. Would love to hear what people think :)

Biggest missing feature: Free text search box. Let me search for that elusive remote FORTRAN position! :-) I would prioritize this over all others as it lets you search for "european" or technology, or "hip chat" if, for instance, you're sensitive to the chat system the employer uses. Covers a lot of bases.

Thanks, that is on the todo list. I was trying to get this done in a short space of time - and because the initial list of jobs was going to be short I felt that I didn't need it for now.

Re: Show HN: RemoteCoder.io – A jobsite for remote programmers

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Post by hiddentao »

WhitneyLand wrote: post #59
hiddentao wrote: post #51

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It's focussed purely on developers (hence the Github integration that some jobs require) and it provides clarity on whether a job is truly remote anywhere or remote within a specific region.

First I really wish you success on this. The bigger it gets the less wasted commute time. That said, how would this be different from StackOverflow Careers? They have a search option for remote and it seems like companies are actually respecting what the checkbox means.

Thanks. It's good if companies are respecting that checkbox. On other job boards I've used (e.g. weworkremotely) remote often turns out to really mean "remote within country X" or "telecommute". This was one of the frustrations that led me to build this board (plus, I thought it would be a fun thing to build!).
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