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Re: Show HN: AI CAD Harness

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My friend is an electrical engineer. He designs circuit boards for a living. We were having dinner the other night, and when the topic of AI came up he told me rather confidently that he didn't think AI was coming for his job anytime soon. I kind of cautiously disagreed. He told me that the applications he used had no tooling for AI. I basically said "give it six months". I think in my googling now, it's already here…

People are trying, but it's not here because it's a multi-dimensional problem space where there are local optimums but often no perfect solution and 'good enough' might only be judged through practical testing, integration, or supply chain realities which are at best predictable and often emergent. You can't always foresee why a design will fail until it's 80% done and then you have to go back 20% to solve it another…

Yeah, another way to say it is that the biggest inputs to any complex design aren't actually captured in the board files themselves. Everything you listed are system integration complexities that no level of autorouter will be able to accommodate for, and they make up 80%+ of the work.

Re: Show HN: AI CAD Harness

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As someone with a background in mechanical engineering, I'd love to be able to automate CAD design as it's quite tedious and only fun like 5% of the time, but I've tried these tools and I really don't think text-to-CAD is the right approach. It usually takes longer for me to come up with an accurate written prompt to fully dimension what I need than to just grab my space mouse and do it.

The real power with these kinds of tools isn’t prompting one shotted models but giving agents the ability to do the full workflow. You give them a description of the part and how it’s supposed to mate with parts from McMaster, Misumi, existing parts libraries, etc and the agent downloads the models, asks any clarifying questions to clear up ambiguities (using available part configurations to provide options when appl…

That still sounds much slower than actually making it yourself. Also you have to take extra time to review the agent's work. The idea of it making subtle errors, hard to find, non-obvious errors is off putting.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real power with these kinds of tools isn’t prompting one shotted models but giving agents the ability to do the full workflow. You give them a description of the part and how it’s supposed to mate with parts from McMaster, Misumi, existing parts libraries, etc and the agent downloads the models, asks any clarifying questions to clear up ambiguities (using available part configurations to provide options when appl…

That still sounds much slower than actually making it yourself. Also you have to take extra time to review the agent's work. The idea of it making subtle errors, hard to find, non-obvious errors is off putting.

you need to get off pudding.

Re: Show HN: AI CAD Harness

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Mechanical engineer here. The idea of having to sift through every intricate detail this thing spits out, just to guard against one hallucinated miscalculation making its way into the real world, is enough to keep me up at night. This AI shit is getting ridiculous.

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Next: PCB harness, just describe the board and function and it will design it for you, selecting best matching components, with an MCP to submit it to PCB manufacturer automatically!

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People are trying, but it's not here because it's a multi-dimensional problem space where there are local optimums but often no perfect solution and 'good enough' might only be judged through practical testing, integration, or supply chain realities which are at best predictable and often emergent. You can't always foresee why a design will fail until it's 80% done and then you have to go back 20% to solve it another…

Yeah, another way to say it is that the biggest inputs to any complex design aren't actually captured in the board files themselves. Everything you listed are system integration complexities that no level of autorouter will be able to accommodate for, and they make up 80%+ of the work.

While I agree they're not in the files, I don't think that's the correct root of the problem. Rather, given the LLM input assumption is that they are communicated, I think the key problem is that they can't be readily communicated because even the specifying party is unsure what they are. That is to say, it's a wicked problem. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_problem

Re: Show HN: AI CAD Harness

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post #20

As someone with a background in mechanical engineering, I'd love to be able to automate CAD design as it's quite tedious and only fun like 5% of the time, but I've tried these tools and I really don't think text-to-CAD is the right approach. It usually takes longer for me to come up with an accurate written prompt to fully dimension what I need than to just grab my space mouse and do it.

The real power with these kinds of tools isn’t prompting one shotted models but giving agents the ability to do the full workflow. You give them a description of the part and how it’s supposed to mate with parts from McMaster, Misumi, existing parts libraries, etc and the agent downloads the models, asks any clarifying questions to clear up ambiguities (using available part configurations to provide options when appl…

What's your opinion on FreeCAD's scripting abilities [1]? The link [1] claims

> FreeCAD has been designed so that it can also be used without its user interface, as a command-line application. Almost every object in FreeCAD therefore consists of two parts: an Object, its "geometry" component, and a ViewObject, its "visual" component. When you work in command-line mode, the geometry part is present, but the visual part is disabled.

[1] https://wiki.freecad.org/Python_scripting_tutorial

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