Seems like there should be an incarcerated stamp for people who were in jail for fraud but later got out, like Shkreli.
How about a fraud prison tat? Murderers have teardrops.
Show HN: 30u30.fyi – Is your startup founder on Forbes' most fraudulent list?
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#63Seems like there should be an incarcerated stamp for people who were in jail for fraud but later got out, like Shkreli.
How about a fraud prison tat? Murderers have teardrops.
To be specific, not all teardrops indicate that the person is a murderer. The teardrop is specifically in remembrance of someone else who was killed.
An empty teardrop indicates the death hasn’t been avenged; a half-filled one that someone else killed the killer; and only a full teardrop means that person killed the killer.
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#64Reactions to this are a bit curious. It's a satirical comment on how (presumably) initially well-intentioned younger founder-types get swept up in / by perverse incentives. The implication is that younger people who are still figuring out who they are and coming into their own may be more susceptible to these kinds of incentive traps.
The first section that showcases the fraud that has been committed is something I have no problem with, just as I have no issue with web3isgoinggreat.com. The "at risk" section is based on a mathematical/algorithmic joke. This is explained by the "methodology" section below it, which makes it clear that the equation used to calculate "risk" here is not entirely unlike the Drake equation for the probability of extra-terrestrial life.[1]
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#65The regular ones are okay. The watchlist is diabolical. Unvoted as soon as I saw the watchlist.
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#66the stupidity to this is that it takes a meme and treats it like facts yes, numerous 30u30 have committed frauds, and yes this list is a paid list. but it's also full of other people who have been duped by what this list represents. compounding memes at the expense of truth just creates more problems than it solves
it’s not a paid list. Or at least it wasn’t, can’t say with certainty it didn’t change.
I know several 30u30 people in my country's list and I highly doubt they paid for anything.
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#67Reactions to this are a bit curious. It's a satirical comment on how (presumably) initially well-intentioned younger founder-types get swept up in / by perverse incentives. The implication is that younger people who are still figuring out who they are and coming into their own may be more susceptible to these kinds of incentive traps. The first section that showcases the fraud that has been committed is something I h…
I think it’s because it’s slightly obvious it was vibe(coded && written).
Starts looking like low effort libel, punching down, more than some clever joke x a statistics exercise
Put another way: the Drake equation, this ain’t.
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#68Nice work.
In section The 30u30 Risk Index there is some css bug, text is in long lines outside of boxes.
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#69Some of these really don't make sense. The implication that Cursor is a fraudulent company is a little weird considering they actually have real users. Like sure, is it a VS code fork with agents stapled to it? Yes. But are they on the same scale as most of the people mentioned? Ehh probably not. It reads more like a hit piece from someone with a grudge against random SF companies than anything else.
> The implication that Cursor is a fraudulent company is a little weird
To my reading the premise of the site is pretty straightforward: 30 Under 30 is a warning sign, not a positive signal. Therefore, as a company with 4 founders who were in 30 Under 30, Cursor is a risk.
It’s a silly little satire site, there’s a danger of reading into it too deeply.
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#70Reactions to this are a bit curious. It's a satirical comment on how (presumably) initially well-intentioned younger founder-types get swept up in / by perverse incentives. The implication is that younger people who are still figuring out who they are and coming into their own may be more susceptible to these kinds of incentive traps. The first section that showcases the fraud that has been committed is something I h…
I think it’s because it’s slightly obvious it was vibe(coded && written). Starts looking like low effort libel, punching down, more than some clever joke x a statistics exercise Put another way: the Drake equation, this ain’t.
Punching down??? These people are silicon valley founders.