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Re: Show HN: I built a sub-500ms latency voice agent from scratch

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If your Alexa did that, how quickly would you box it up and send it to me. :) I am serious though about having it sent to me: if anyone has an Alexa they no longer want, I'm happy to take it off your hands. I have eight and have never bought one. Having worked there I actually trust the security more than before I worked there. It was basically impossible for me, even as a Principle Engineer, to get copies of the Tex…

What a way to throwaway good will. I also worked there and to get access to text you simply had to grab the DSN of your device, attest that it’s yours and it gets put in a “pool” of devices that are tracked until removed. On each end you are basically waved through with no checks. This was usually done when debugging tricky UI bugs or new features as the request followed through several micro services. I do not belie…

That was your own device. Not other customers.

Re: Show HN: I built a sub-500ms latency voice agent from scratch

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Oh, this is really interesting to me. This is what I worked on at Amazon Alexa (and have patents on). An interesting fact I learned at the time: The median delay between human speakers during a conversation is 0ms (zero). In other words, in many cases, the listener starts speaking before the speaker is done. You've probably experienced this, and you talk about how you "finish each other's sentences". It's because you…

> median delay Does that mean that half of responses have a negative delay? As in, humans interrupt each others sentences precisely half of the time?

Yes about 1/2 of human speech is interrupting others.

Re: Show HN: I built a sub-500ms latency voice agent from scratch

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> median delay Does that mean that half of responses have a negative delay? As in, humans interrupt each others sentences precisely half of the time?

I assume 0 delay is the minimum here, and a median of 0 means over half of the data are exactly 0.

No, about 1/2 of human speech is interrupting others.

Re: Show HN: I built a sub-500ms latency voice agent from scratch

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If your Alexa did that, how quickly would you box it up and send it to me. :) I am serious though about having it sent to me: if anyone has an Alexa they no longer want, I'm happy to take it off your hands. I have eight and have never bought one. Having worked there I actually trust the security more than before I worked there. It was basically impossible for me, even as a Principle Engineer, to get copies of the Tex…

What a way to throwaway good will. I also worked there and to get access to text you simply had to grab the DSN of your device, attest that it’s yours and it gets put in a “pool” of devices that are tracked until removed. On each end you are basically waved through with no checks. This was usually done when debugging tricky UI bugs or new features as the request followed through several micro services. I do not belie…

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Re: Show HN: I built a sub-500ms latency voice agent from scratch

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> There isn't a lot of money in "what time is it" and "what's the weather". :) - Alexa, what time is it? - Current time is 5:35 P.M. - the perfect time to crack open a can of ice cold Budweiser! A fresh 12-pack can be delivered within one hour if you order now!

If your Alexa did that, how quickly would you box it up and send it to me. :) I am serious though about having it sent to me: if anyone has an Alexa they no longer want, I'm happy to take it off your hands. I have eight and have never bought one. Having worked there I actually trust the security more than before I worked there. It was basically impossible for me, even as a Principle Engineer, to get copies of the Tex…

I'm puzzled by this conversation, because Amazon did get on the agent bandwagon with Alexa Plus (I have it, it's buggier than regular Alexa and it's all making me throw my Echos away since they can't even play Spotify reliably).

Also, my Alexa does advertise stuff to me when I talk to it. It's not Budweiser, but it'll try to upsell me on Amazon services all the time.

Re: Show HN: I built a sub-500ms latency voice agent from scratch

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If your Alexa did that, how quickly would you box it up and send it to me. :) I am serious though about having it sent to me: if anyone has an Alexa they no longer want, I'm happy to take it off your hands. I have eight and have never bought one. Having worked there I actually trust the security more than before I worked there. It was basically impossible for me, even as a Principle Engineer, to get copies of the Tex…

I'm puzzled by this conversation, because Amazon did get on the agent bandwagon with Alexa Plus (I have it, it's buggier than regular Alexa and it's all making me throw my Echos away since they can't even play Spotify reliably). Also, my Alexa does advertise stuff to me when I talk to it. It's not Budweiser, but it'll try to upsell me on Amazon services all the time.

> because Amazon did get on the agent bandwagon with Alexa Plus

Which just launched last year, about four years after ChatGPT had AI voice chat. And it costs extra money to cover the costs. And as you aptly point out, all the guardrails they had to put in made the experience less than ideal.

> Also, my Alexa does advertise stuff to me when I talk to it.

Yes, that is how they try to make money. And it's gotten worse. But how many times does it get you to buy something?

Re: Show HN: I built a sub-500ms latency voice agent from scratch

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What a way to throwaway good will. I also worked there and to get access to text you simply had to grab the DSN of your device, attest that it’s yours and it gets put in a “pool” of devices that are tracked until removed. On each end you are basically waved through with no checks. This was usually done when debugging tricky UI bugs or new features as the request followed through several micro services. I do not belie…

That was your own device. Not other customers.

Don't feed the trolls, Jeremy.
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