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Re: Show HN: Rift – A tiling window manager for macOS

#61

I don't get it. Why anyone would need to use tile manager in macOS? How often do you need to have apps side by side? In most cases, just making the app full screen and switch between windows with 4 finger swipes does the job beautifully. Enlighten me please

Literally all the time. Slack on the right quarter. The rest is browser / terminal / ide / others in various combinations depending on the task. Quite often it's browser + log tailing. Every app also has subdivisions: vs code can be multi-file + terminal. Terminal itself is multiplexed. Browser is Zen with side-by-side pages quite often.

Re: Show HN: Rift – A tiling window manager for macOS

#62
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I used to be a heavy user of i3. It's very flexible and configurable, and you can do much more than just moving windows. But after I switched to Mac, I couldn't find a tiling window manager that was both feature-rich and stable. After trying several options, I just use Rectangle[1]. It's not a window manager; it only provides shortcuts for window placements like simply moving windows to left/right/top/bottom or split…

Maybe I misunderstand what you mean, on one hand you say you want a window manager that's feature rich, on the other you say you're tired of using very flexible software with tons of configs. Aren't those two at odds with one another?

flexible usually means "it does what I want".

tons of useless features means it does what other other people want.

Re: Show HN: Rift – A tiling window manager for macOS

#63

I don't get it. Why anyone would need to use tile manager in macOS? How often do you need to have apps side by side? In most cases, just making the app full screen and switch between windows with 4 finger swipes does the job beautifully. Enlighten me please

You cant think of any reason you’d want two windows in a viewport at the same time? Not one?

Re: Show HN: Rift – A tiling window manager for macOS

#64

I don't get it. Why anyone would need to use tile manager in macOS? How often do you need to have apps side by side? In most cases, just making the app full screen and switch between windows with 4 finger swipes does the job beautifully. Enlighten me please

Literally all the time. Slack on the right quarter. The rest is browser / terminal / ide / others in various combinations depending on the task. Quite often it's browser + log tailing. Every app also has subdivisions: vs code can be multi-file + terminal. Terminal itself is multiplexed. Browser is Zen with side-by-side pages quite often.

If you ask me, this will cause more distraction than being productive. In your example, would Slack be needed all the time, so it would worth keeping a quarter of the screen? Then IDEs for example have a lot of menus, panes, buttons and everything. You would have much less space for the actual code if you not have it in full screen mode. It might be personal style, but I find having 3 full screen windows and swtiching between them (with the most used, browser, in the middle) with a quick swipe is the most productive.

Re: Show HN: Rift – A tiling window manager for macOS

#65

I don't get it. Why anyone would need to use tile manager in macOS? How often do you need to have apps side by side? In most cases, just making the app full screen and switch between windows with 4 finger swipes does the job beautifully. Enlighten me please

I won't speak to "needing" a tiling window manager but "just making the app full screen and switch between windows with 4 finger swipes does the job beautifully" - you you.

I have disabled most gestures, animations, and multiple desktops (spaces?) in macos. The swiping between each of these full screen apps is painfully slow to me. It's compounded by needing to pass through an app to get to one on the other side, meaning it could be 2 or 3 swipes before the app I need is the one on screen. When I see someone swipe the wrong direction and quickly swipe back it makes me cringe.

When I want an app on screen I don't want to perform mental calculation for how many steps away, nor do I ever want to have to pass through an app to get there.

Re: Show HN: Rift – A tiling window manager for macOS

#66

I don't get it. Why anyone would need to use tile manager in macOS? How often do you need to have apps side by side? In most cases, just making the app full screen and switch between windows with 4 finger swipes does the job beautifully. Enlighten me please

You cant think of any reason you’d want two windows in a viewport at the same time? Not one?

No no, I can't find a reason to use a highly configurable tiling manager tool for that. Something like Moom will do the job. But then I can't find a reason to have more than two windows in a viewport

Re: Show HN: Rift – A tiling window manager for macOS

#67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Literally all the time. Slack on the right quarter. The rest is browser / terminal / ide / others in various combinations depending on the task. Quite often it's browser + log tailing. Every app also has subdivisions: vs code can be multi-file + terminal. Terminal itself is multiplexed. Browser is Zen with side-by-side pages quite often.

If you ask me, this will cause more distraction than being productive. In your example, would Slack be needed all the time, so it would worth keeping a quarter of the screen? Then IDEs for example have a lot of menus, panes, buttons and everything. You would have much less space for the actual code if you not have it in full screen mode. It might be personal style, but I find having 3 full screen windows and swtichin…

> would Slack be needed all the time

For my work - mostly yes. If it's not needed, it's not there.

> Then IDEs for example have a lot of menus, panes, buttons and everything.

I've got them all closed. Whatever panes are needed, they're only open then.

Re: Show HN: Rift – A tiling window manager for macOS

#69

I don't get it. Why anyone would need to use tile manager in macOS? How often do you need to have apps side by side? In most cases, just making the app full screen and switch between windows with 4 finger swipes does the job beautifully. Enlighten me please

Nobody needs anything, it's all about preference. I keep apps side-by-side all the time, but by using the same style of window manager across each OS I use (I use Mac, Win, and Linux) I'm able to keep a similar workflow, instead of needing to cater to each OS' prescribed workflow.

Re: Show HN: Rift – A tiling window manager for macOS

#70

There got a lot of tiling window manager for macOS. People create another and another and another new ones.

I think the root cause is that the default window manager was just horribly designed for a long time. Instantiating new windows of an App is still a horribly designed, deeply frustrating workflow on Mac OS that is just seamless and easy on Linux and Windows. I ended up linking Aerospace to some godawful Applescript just to be able to open a new Safari window without being flung across spaces to an existing Safari window first.

Apple does some things best in class but the core design of windowing & using applications is just awful imo.

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