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Re: Show HN: Every single torrent is on this website

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I don't understand why so many people seem so fascinated by constructions like the library of Babel. Yes it contains the answers to all your questions, but there are some significant drawbacks. * It has more wrong information than right information, with no way to tell the difference. * If you had an oracle that could tell you how to get to the book you need, the navigation instructions to get to the book will be at…

Everyone is aware of this. Sites like this aren't created to be useful. They are created to be an amusement, a joke.

Re: Show HN: Every single torrent is on this website

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For a more practical version (containing only infohashes that are observed on the dht) there is bitmagnet [1]. No public instances though, you have to self-host 1: https://github.com/bitmagnet-io/bitmagnet

how to go straight to jail 101

Does running an indexer and crawler help make the content available to others, or why would this be legally risky? Why would anyone care about what kind of Docker container I run on my home server?

Re: Show HN: Every single torrent is on this website

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> csam content is filtered Filtered how? By some keywords I don't want to know? What about encrypted zips of CSAM? There's no way to filter that in reality. If you want to learn more about why and you can either speak German or can handle youtubes auto translate i recommend this documentation on the matter[0]. The Pedo Criminals are using scene methods to share their illegal content. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch…

why not just exclude encrypted zips?

bitmagnet only has the info you get by looking up the infohash in the dht, which is basically the same info that's stored in a .torrent file: a name, a list of files with offsets and paths, and a bunch of block hashes. That's not a lot to go on, and e.g. doesn't tell you if the zip is encrypted

I guess you could filter all torrents that include just zips/rars/7zips. That would exclude a lot of harmless content. Probably too much harmless content to make it a default, but if you only care about hollywood releases it would be a useful filter

If there was a public list of hashes of (8/18KiB blocks of) CSAM content that would be useful for a filter, but I don't think such a thing exists

Re: Show HN: Every single torrent is on this website

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why not just exclude encrypted zips?

bitmagnet only has the info you get by looking up the infohash in the dht, which is basically the same info that's stored in a .torrent file: a name, a list of files with offsets and paths, and a bunch of block hashes. That's not a lot to go on, and e.g. doesn't tell you if the zip is encrypted I guess you could filter all torrents that include just zips/rars/7zips. That would exclude a lot of harmless content. Proba…

> If there was a public list of hashes of (8/18KiB blocks of) CSAM content that would be useful for a filter, but I don't think such a thing exists

But wouldn't that just be a list of CSAM to look up?

Re: Show HN: Every single torrent is on this website

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Yeah I agree with you. > It's like the idea that the sculptor doesn't create the sculpture, the sculpture was there all along, he just had to remove the superfluous matter to reveal what was already there (i.e. the atoms belonging to the final sculpture). I understand this argument but I have far more trouble applying this logic to real things. I'm not sure the same logic applies once the information is instantiated…

I'm not sure the law has ever been concerned with logical reducibility. Context that can't easily been defined objectively has always been a part of legal systems, and arguably is a feature rather than a bug. Stuff like the "reasonable person" standard are intentionally flawed concepts that allow laws to exist without needing to define every possible permutation of human behavior up front. This obviously doesn't mean…

Exactly, it's a common failure mode for math/programming-minded people when encountering the law. But the law is not like a compiler, mechanically following some fully-specified set of rules.

The legal system is rather the spiritual successor of the original "system" where a wise Solomon-like elder would adjugate the issue based on their best judgment and intuition and customs, ideally seeking peace and social satisfaction and future harmony. Codified law channels this into some more pre-shaped form, but the fuel of the legal system is still the human judgment and common sense at the core. Often the law basically just prompts and nudges the judgment of the jurors or judge to a certain direction, but it can't account for all corner cases. The nerd mind asks ok ok but what if X, where do you draw the sharp line between X and Y? It doesn't matter. If it comes up, a court will decide it based on all available common sense and the implicit values of the culture.

In the cases where someone seemingly gets away with "rules-lawyering", then it's not purely their genius logic-brain that wins, but there is some kind of slanted playing field that's not really available to you. Of course the line between "annoying rules-lawyering based on literal interpretation of technicalities that obviously nobody intended to be interpreted so" and something that was not anticipated initially but does fit within the rules. This decision itself is based on judgment and intuition. In life, sometimes coming up with a "technically works" thing is rewarded and lauded (math proofs, pathological counterexamples, cracking an encryption library via side-channel attacks), other times you get an eye-roll and that's obviously cheating and wasn't meant (e.g. courts of law and fun at parties).

Re: Show HN: Every single torrent is on this website

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Is this legal? I’m of the impression that publishing infohashes to copyrighted content is illegal under DMCA?

the infohash isn't copyrighted, so it's not illegal information in and of itself. serving the infohash isn't serving the torrent, and serving the torrent is also not serving copyrighted material. I believe that downloading is still illegal absent a fair use exemption but it's rarely prosecuted because you have to prove the absence of the exemption. It's uploading copyrighted content that's actually illegal and also easy to prosecute, so it's seeders that usually get bopped.

Re: Show HN: Every single torrent is on this website

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Yes, I mean exactly this type of insight. Basically taking a digital photo with a camera technically also just picks out the "address" of your current environment within the space of all images. Any 4K 2-hour-length feature film in a digital format is also just an address in the space of all possible videos. The director, the actors, the whole crew did all that work in order to select that point from the space of pos…

Yeah I agree with you. > It's like the idea that the sculptor doesn't create the sculpture, the sculpture was there all along, he just had to remove the superfluous matter to reveal what was already there (i.e. the atoms belonging to the final sculpture). I understand this argument but I have far more trouble applying this logic to real things. I'm not sure the same logic applies once the information is instantiated…

I'm close to you on that opinion, but there's another factor: Life and its sustenance. There's a lot of mechanisms in the body to ensure that life continues, including pain and desire. But the fact is resources that sustain life are finite. There's a lot of proxies for the act of acquiring such resources and laws like copyright is the legal framework for these proxies.

It's basically creating value out of nowhere in lieu of resources that are truly valuable, but inconvenient to trade directly. But then like a metrics that got corrupted (I forgot the name of the law for that), there are other that are trying to game the system (and succeeding) so that they can maximize their share.

Re: Show HN: Every single torrent is on this website

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I don't think they're equivalent. I think invention and creation aren't actually real. There is no "making" or "creating" when it comes to intellectual work. All computer files are sequences of bits. All sequences of bits are integers. All integers already exist in the infinite set of natural numbers. I can even calculate how big those numbers are given their bit count. digits(bits) = ceil(bits * log10(2)) digits(32)…

This conflates mathematical existence with actual instantiation. A 2gb integer might be definable, but until someone encodes a particular arrangement of bits and gives it context, it doesn’t exist in any practical sense. We don’t treat all future novels as "already written" just because their ASCII codes can be mapped to integers.

I said all novels already exist. That's different from claiming all novels have already been written.

The claim is that humans are not "creators" but generators, very much in the random number generator sense. We are interesting number generators.

Re: Show HN: Every single torrent is on this website

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Yes, I mean exactly this type of insight. Basically taking a digital photo with a camera technically also just picks out the "address" of your current environment within the space of all images. Any 4K 2-hour-length feature film in a digital format is also just an address in the space of all possible videos. The director, the actors, the whole crew did all that work in order to select that point from the space of pos…

Yeah I agree with you. > It's like the idea that the sculptor doesn't create the sculpture, the sculpture was there all along, he just had to remove the superfluous matter to reveal what was already there (i.e. the atoms belonging to the final sculpture). I understand this argument but I have far more trouble applying this logic to real things. I'm not sure the same logic applies once the information is instantiated…

Copyright is not "ownership of numbers". "Intellectual property" is a misnomer. Copyright is an instrumental tool to achieve specific socially desirable things, namely the flourishing of scientific and artistic activity. It's a relatively modern creation, born of enlightenment-style principles in the 18th century. If it were still used according to that spirit, we'd have less problems.
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