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Re: Show HN: Vibe Kanban – Kanban board to manage your AI coding agents

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Post by gpm »

swyx wrote: post #58
gpm wrote: post #51

Hmm, analytics appear to default to enabled: https://github.com/BloopAI/vibe-kanban/blob/609f9c4f9e989b59... It is harvesting email addresses and github usernames: https://github.com/BloopAI/vibe-kanban/blob/609f9c4f9e989b59... Then it seems to track every time you start/finish/merge/attempt a task, and every time you run a dev server. Including what executors you are using (I think this means "claude code" or the li…

could you point me to what jurisdictions require analytics opt in esp for open source devtools? thats not actually something ive seen as a legal requirement, more a community preference. eg ok we all know about EU website cookie banners, but i am more ignorant about devtools/clis sending back telemetry. any actual laws cited here would update me significatnly

I mean, you've labelled one big one already with the GDPR covering a significant fraction of the world - and unlike your average analytics "username and email address" sounds unquestionably identifying/personal information.

Where I live I think this would violate PIPEDA, the Canadian privacy law that covers all business that do business in any Canadian province/territory other than BC/Alberta/Quebec (which all have similar laws).

There's generally no exception in these for "open source devtools" - laws are typically still laws even if release something for free. The Canadian version (though I don't think the GDPR does) has an exception for entirely non-commercial organizations, but Bloop AI appears to be a commercial organization so it wouldn't apply. It also contains an exception for business contact information - but as I understand it that is not interpreted broadly enough to cover random developers email addresses just because they happen to be used for a potentially personal github account.

Disclaimer: Not a lawyer. You should probably consult a lawyer in the relevant jurisdiction (i.e. all of them) if it actually matters to you.

Re: Show HN: Vibe Kanban – Kanban board to manage your AI coding agents

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Post by jackbridger »

This is interesting. I’m using Claude Code a fair bit and have found writing specs to be more effective than promoting and this feels closer to that. I can see the appeal of this for simple tasks now and maybe increasingly bigger tasks as models get better.

Re: Show HN: Vibe Kanban – Kanban board to manage your AI coding agents

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Post by skeeter2020 »

bwfan123 wrote: post #33
barbazoo wrote: post #32

> human engineers now spend the majority of their time planning, reviewing, and orchestrating tasks This feel like much too broad a statement to be true.

> AI coding agents are increasingly writing the world's code and human engineers now spend the majority of their time planning, reviewing, and orchestrating tasks. This tactic is called "assuming the sale". ie, Make a statement as-if it is already true, and put the burden on the reader to negate it. Majority of us are too scared of what others think, and go-along by default. It is related to the FOMO tactic in that i…

I'll add - often not adding the last part is even MORE powerful: "and everyone is now using agents to increase their productivity..."

Re: Show HN: Vibe Kanban – Kanban board to manage your AI coding agents

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Post by skeeter2020 »

rvz wrote: post #38
barbazoo wrote: post #32

> human engineers now spend the majority of their time planning, reviewing, and orchestrating tasks This feel like much too broad a statement to be true.

I read that too and these are the kind of statements which really tells you what happens when a profession embraces mediocrity and accepts something as crass as "Vibe-coding" which is somehow going to change "software engineering" even when adding so-called "AI agents" - which makes it worse. All this cargo-culting is done without realizing that more code means more security issues, technical debt, more time for huma…

and I came into the industry when software was not engineering. Still think this is mostly true (you can call yourself an engineer when you insure your product)

Re: Show HN: Vibe Kanban – Kanban board to manage your AI coding agents

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Post by gpm »

skeeter2020 wrote: post #60
gpm wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More generously I'd assume because - It's an early prototype so they haven't dealt with fine grained permissions - They really do want to do things like access private repos with it themselves - They really do want the ability to do things like checkout code, create PRs, etc... and that involves a lot of permission.

every one of your "more generous" assumptions is the opposite of what should be their process. It's the equivalent of "vacuum up as much data as possible and then decide what to do with it". Not acceptable.

It's "vacuuming" that data in the sense of giving API access to a tool that runs on your local computer, that seems acceptable enough for me in the early stages of developing a tool.

The other privacy complains I have regarding them harvesting usernames and email addresses... not so much.

Re: Show HN: Vibe Kanban – Kanban board to manage your AI coding agents

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Post by [deleted] »

skeeter2020 wrote: post #64
bwfan123 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> AI coding agents are increasingly writing the world's code and human engineers now spend the majority of their time planning, reviewing, and orchestrating tasks. This tactic is called "assuming the sale". ie, Make a statement as-if it is already true, and put the burden on the reader to negate it. Majority of us are too scared of what others think, and go-along by default. It is related to the FOMO tactic in that i…

I'll add - often not adding the last part is even MORE powerful: "and everyone is now using agents to increase their productivity..."

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Re: Show HN: Vibe Kanban – Kanban board to manage your AI coding agents

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Post by willsmith72 »

arresin wrote: post #53
gpm wrote: post #51

Hmm, analytics appear to default to enabled: https://github.com/BloopAI/vibe-kanban/blob/609f9c4f9e989b59... It is harvesting email addresses and github usernames: https://github.com/BloopAI/vibe-kanban/blob/609f9c4f9e989b59... Then it seems to track every time you start/finish/merge/attempt a task, and every time you run a dev server. Including what executors you are using (I think this means "claude code" or the li…

Thanks, really appreciate the heads up. I put devs who do this on a personal black list for life. I think also that this would be better as an mcp tool / resource. Let the model operate and query it as needed.

It's the email/username harvesting that you mean right? Or do people also have something against anonymised product analytics?

Re: Show HN: Vibe Kanban – Kanban board to manage your AI coding agents

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Post by ffsm8 »

skeeter2020 wrote: post #62

If I multiply my 100x productivity gains from using AI with your 10x increase what am I supposed to do with all that free time?

Maybe Tony can inspire you?

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