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Re: Show HN: Heart Rate Zones Plus – The first iOS app I developed

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bryan0 wrote: post #24
throwanem wrote: post #13

I like this visualization! I'm not doing a kind of training these days where it would be useful for me, but I wish I'd known about something like it when I was. Do you support Apple watch? I never actually targeted that or owned one (I like a much more stylish smartwatch!) and thus don't immediately know how to spot that integration on an App Store detail page, hence the need to ask. But I get the sense a lot of folk…

The Apple watch Workout app has a heart zone view while you're working out, but I don't think it has a workaround summary of how much time you spent in each zone.

The app is not just getting heart rate measurements from workouts but in general. But as mentioned the interesting thing is that it's doing a sum per day, week, month, last 7 days and last 30 days

Re: Show HN: Heart Rate Zones Plus – The first iOS app I developed

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ellisv wrote: post #31

Congratulations! I also wrote an iOS app to do this exact same thing, although it’s unfinished and unpublished. I had a lot of trouble getting the app to perform well (what’s your secret?!) Couple of things I implemented that you may want to consider: 1) onboarding flow to help users setup the app on first launch 2) filter certain workouts to include/exclude by type, duration, etc 3) home screen widget Id love to cha…

Hey thanks for the feedback. The secret? I'm not sure? You had issues with the speed or getting the data and updating the view?

What I did is adding a loading indicator and fetching data onChange, so if I change e.g. bow heart rates are calculated it starts to fetch instantly after the change not only on the view with the bars.

And I'm currently just fetching 30 days. I think this will be interesting if I try to extend it.

Onboarding flow, Home screen widget is on my list. Thanks.

The filtering would also be interesting. Haven't though about hat because I usually myself do always the same workouts

Re: Show HN: Heart Rate Zones Plus – The first iOS app I developed

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voisin wrote: post #34

It would be great if it was quicker to switch between time periods, like swiping to compare week by week or month by month. Also, to filter by workout type. I care about zone for running but not for strength.

The filter mentioned at least twice here. I like the idea. Currently it's taking all the heart rate measurements, because my initial idea was to track also for people who do not activly switch on workouts when they are doing sport. But for people who do propert tracking they want just to include "cardio sports" probably

Re: Show HN: Heart Rate Zones Plus – The first iOS app I developed

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Post by tobias5 »

fud101 wrote: post #49

Zones are useless tbh unless you know your max HR. My watch tells me i'm in zone 2 but that was based on a value I put in for max which i care not to test anytime soon.

I do an estimation of max HR, with different methods. This is really just an estimation. For resting HR, which can also be used to get the Zones if you select Karvonen method, I use an export from Apples HealthKit. I currently do the average of the last 7 days. Not sure if Apple does an estimate for this value, too?

Re: Show HN: Heart Rate Zones Plus – The first iOS app I developed

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Post by throwanem »

jpc0 wrote: post #58
throwanem wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay, all granted, but now that we agree you keep all your data which is safe, we only need discuss how no other than totally trivial project I think can really be "[stuck] on the app store and [ignored]," not for more than a couple years. Anything with meaningful platform integration would impose the same requirement, not to mention the $100 pa vig and time investment required just to show up at the party. In 2025,…

I am committing as a user of the app, something I plan to integrate into my life. It’s not unfair to want to know whether the author plans to make it viable long term or if it is a project that is scratching their personal itch. If it’s a project that’s only meant to scratch a personal itch and they only plan to support it for as long as they deem it useful and have no intention of open sourcing it in the future that…

Sure, again, all granted. To reiterate the thesis of my prior comment, 'Fair to ask, but show the courtesy due an equal at least until it is evident that is unwarranted.'

Re: Show HN: Heart Rate Zones Plus – The first iOS app I developed

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aziaziazi wrote: post #60

Looks great! Require iOS 18, however I’m on iOS 15 and not willing to throw my working iPhone yet. Any chance you "down-port it" ? Or open source and accept contributions / clones ?

Thanks. I will take a look into that, but I think with iOS 16 there were a lot of changes.

Re: Show HN: Heart Rate Zones Plus – The first iOS app I developed

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Post by fud101 »

tobias5 wrote: post #64
fud101 wrote: post #49

Zones are useless tbh unless you know your max HR. My watch tells me i'm in zone 2 but that was based on a value I put in for max which i care not to test anytime soon.

I do an estimation of max HR, with different methods. This is really just an estimation. For resting HR, which can also be used to get the Zones if you select Karvonen method, I use an export from Apples HealthKit. I currently do the average of the last 7 days. Not sure if Apple does an estimate for this value, too?

Oh how cute, estimates. 220-age is so accurate lol. Just a joke to even talk about this nonsense, it's completely unhelpful in all manner. I just set myself an arbitrary goal for the run (say 160bpm over an hour, which is something i'm working towards so i may be say averaging 165 currently) and try to attain that progresively each week. No idea what zone that is, don't care. If it's currently 'zone 4' so what? It will eventually become 'zone 2'. If i spend all my time doing 'zone 2' at worst i'll be wasting time, at best, i'll be spinning my wheels.

Re: Show HN: Heart Rate Zones Plus – The first iOS app I developed

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Post by jpc0 »

throwanem wrote: post #65
jpc0 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am committing as a user of the app, something I plan to integrate into my life. It’s not unfair to want to know whether the author plans to make it viable long term or if it is a project that is scratching their personal itch. If it’s a project that’s only meant to scratch a personal itch and they only plan to support it for as long as they deem it useful and have no intention of open sourcing it in the future that…

Sure, again, all granted. To reiterate the thesis of my prior comment, 'Fair to ask, but show the courtesy due an equal at least until it is evident that is unwarranted.'

Where is the lack of showing courtesy?

I asked a question in response to them asking me to download and use their app. Have we reached a point in this world where simply asking a question is offensive? They had every right to choose not to respond just like I can choose not to use their app if they don’t. How you respond is your choice, if you chose to take offence to a question about the long term sustainability of a project that’s on you, for me I don’t want to use software that has no intention of existing long term. If we have different values that’s fine, I don’t care.

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