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Re: Show HN: Hacker Herald – like HN but with crowdsourced pics and subtitles

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Post by PaulHoule »

sourcepluck wrote: post #57
PaulHoule wrote: post #41

One of the best HN redesigns I've seen in that it's not just "add whitespace" but is a totally different layout. My take on social media is that you have to have an image in a post if you want people to engage with it.

You're writing that on a medium which is social which gets tons of engagement which doesn't have any images. I don't get it. Surely every single thread that got even modest engagement on HN since the beginning of the place disproves your take?

HN is unusual because it is that way. There's nothing wrong with that.

But let's put it this way. If I find a popular article on a ScienceX site I often find it links to a journal article which may or may not be open access, let's assume that it is.

Posting to HN I will usually post the open access article.

Posting to Mastodon or Bluesky I will usually post the ScienceX link because those platforms can find an image in those articles but can't find an image in a paper in Nature. (Note on those platforms I get replies like "this is over my head" when I post a real paper whereas nobody in HN wants to admit that vulnerability)

If somebody makes an HN clone which merges in images, those images are going to have a big impact on people's engagement with that clone.

Re: Show HN: Hacker Herald – like HN but with crowdsourced pics and subtitles

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Post by kayge »

cjsawyer wrote: post #58

I prefer the density of the original, but your addition of "Today", "Yesterday", "Wednesday"... buttons is excellent. That is much more useful than the infinite scroll on the vanilla homepage.

This other alternative interface might interest you: https://hckrnews.com/

Fairly high density, divided by day, and able to reduce down to groups of Top 10 / Top 20 / Top 50%.

This is my go-to since Top 10 is about all I have time for these days :)

Re: Show HN: Hacker Herald – like HN but with crowdsourced pics and subtitles

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Post by alecco »

rkagerer wrote: post #50

I want to thank you for doing this, but for a different reason: it reminded me how much I appreciate the vanilla HN layout. I viscerally HATE all the news sites that look like your project. I've sought alternative sources of news with a more old-school look, without success. I used to think it wasn't just the pictures. I found the average quality of reporting went down, along with a rise in clickbait headlines and st…

It would be interesting to have some highlighter over the titles to make it easier to scan. Could be some very simple AI in a browser extension. Maybe even have some color tags while there. Pretty simple.

The extensions I've tried added a bunch of features I don't care about.

Re: Show HN: Hacker Herald – like HN but with crowdsourced pics and subtitles

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Post by Sn0wCoder »

tunnuz wrote: post #38

I love it, I wonder if LLMs couldn't be used to generate some pictures.

Think you are being downvoted because technically an LLM stands for Large Language Models, while image generation is something like LDM latent diffusion models or most people just say Stable Diffusion. If you would have said the more generic ChatGPT then the answer would have been maybe since its supposed to be Multi-Modal. If you are asking if Stable Diffusion could generate pictures based of the article description the answer is most likely yes given the prompt correctly parses the context correctly (maybe using an LLM for getting the prompt before feeding into the next tool).

I hear almost everyone call everything ChatGPT no matter what they are using (MS, Google Gemini, Ollama, etc…) ChatGPT made me a PP, ChatGPT made this image, so maybe if you want a general term ChatGPT would be more correct. I typically say ChatGPT for LLMs and Stable Diffusion when talking to normal people since most are familiar with the big two. Predicting the next pixel to draw is sorta like predicting the next word (token) I guess

Most people know what you mean, but still good to use the correct term. Disclaimer so I do not get downvoted with you: Please do your own research as I just wrote how I understand these concepts and am not an expert.

Re: Show HN: Hacker Herald – like HN but with crowdsourced pics and subtitles

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Post by woleium »

rkagerer wrote: post #50

I want to thank you for doing this, but for a different reason: it reminded me how much I appreciate the vanilla HN layout. I viscerally HATE all the news sites that look like your project. I've sought alternative sources of news with a more old-school look, without success. I used to think it wasn't just the pictures. I found the average quality of reporting went down, along with a rise in clickbait headlines and st…

use feedly or theoldreader or another rss tool?

Re: Show HN: Hacker Herald – like HN but with crowdsourced pics and subtitles

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Post by iLoveOncall »

dang wrote: post #49
iLoveOncall wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree about the no pics, but come on, HackerNews has extremely cryptic titles more often than not. Half of the frontpage is always made of titles that are either referencing ultra-niche products, clickbaity, misrepresent the content of the article, try to be smart, etc. If anything, HackerNews would be BETTER if it did not have post titles but only excerpts.

There shouldn't be titles that are either clickbaity or misrepresent the article. The site guidelines call for rewriting those (" Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait. ") and we're pretty active in doing so.

But I think this is not enough. Not misrepresenting is not enough, they should instead represent the content of the article.

If I take a random one on the front page right now, "The square roots of all evil", it doesn't describe at all its content. Yet if I flagged it, I know it wouldn't be renamed.

Another example is an earlier post that got a lot of traction: "The correct amount of ads is zero". This is borderline misrepresentative to be fair, but even being lenient on that aspect, it is not at all helping me understand what I will be reading if I decide to click on this article.

Those articles thrives on HN because even if it's not exactly clickbaity, the titles have a "shock factor" that makes people click on them.

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Post by [deleted] »

rkagerer wrote: post #50

I want to thank you for doing this, but for a different reason: it reminded me how much I appreciate the vanilla HN layout. I viscerally HATE all the news sites that look like your project. I've sought alternative sources of news with a more old-school look, without success. I used to think it wasn't just the pictures. I found the average quality of reporting went down, along with a rise in clickbait headlines and st…

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Re: Show HN: Hacker Herald – like HN but with crowdsourced pics and subtitles

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Post by amelius »

voodooEntity wrote: post #14

While i have to admit, from all the alternative frontends i have seen over the years (and there have been alot) this is by far the best. Tho as many others mention, one of the great things on hackernews is the minimalism / simplicity - and i have to admit its one of the reasons why i always like to go on hackersnews. Just a simple textlist, easy to read, no visual clutter. Tho for people that like a more colorfull/st…

It is ironic that the people responsible for most of the UX cruft on the internet (i.e., us programmers) prefer such minimalism in their interfaces.
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