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Re: Show HN: Eidos – Offline alternative to Notion

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Post by freedomben »

meiraleal wrote: post #49
mayne wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know many note-taking users like the concept of markdown and plain text. So do I. However, I think plain text has its limitations. There are many other types of structured data in life. Just like Word and Excel, they have different responsibilities. No one worries that Excel will not work in a few decades because it's just an offline software. Similarly, no one worries that SQLite will be unable to open or view bec…

SQLite won't stop working but your format is proprietary. A markdown can be understood even without rendering to HTML but your tables are useless for an user without your app.

> SQLite won't stop working but your format is proprietary.

As far as I can tell, the whole app is open source (AGPL), and sqlite is obviously open source as well. I agree that markdown is more portable, but this setup is far from proprietary.

I may not have made the same decision (I love having my notes in markdown), but I think OP was quite thoughtful about it and has made an informed and reasonable decision.

Re: Show HN: Eidos – Offline alternative to Notion

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Post by f0c1s »

I have been making notes for a decade now. I have moved through plain txt files, no extension (linux style) txt files, CherryTree, SimpleNotes, LogSeq, Notion, GitHub Pages, Obsidian and may be more.

I have moved through phases of putting notes in physical notebook and scanning. I have 10s of scanned notebooks.

I have taken digital notes via stylus, via wacom pen and tablet, Samsung notes (best note taking app with stylus), a bunch of linux apps (xournal, xournal++ etc) and more...

I have written notes in pure html.

I have written personal app for taking notes in browser and storing it in postgres.

There is nothing better than text + git. Markdown is second.

My current configuration is: text/markdown + git + vs code + (plain) obsidian + plantuml + mermaid + local-git-server/github/gitlab etc.

Re: Show HN: Eidos – Offline alternative to Notion

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Post by enbugger »

karencarits wrote: post #38

I have tried quite many such apps and keep returning to Tiddlywiki ( https://tiddlywiki.com/ ). It is not perfect, and the lack of hierarchy can be both a blessing and a curse. It uses flat-files which can impact performance and be more cumbersome than a database. Also, the integration with external files is a bit clumsy. However, the main strength is customizability. Various data is best presented in various ways, a…

How is it different to Obsidian?

Re: Show HN: Eidos – Offline alternative to Notion

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Post by dalmo3 »

enbugger wrote: post #63
karencarits wrote: post #38

I have tried quite many such apps and keep returning to Tiddlywiki ( https://tiddlywiki.com/ ). It is not perfect, and the lack of hierarchy can be both a blessing and a curse. It uses flat-files which can impact performance and be more cumbersome than a database. Also, the integration with external files is a bit clumsy. However, the main strength is customizability. Various data is best presented in various ways, a…

How is it different to Obsidian?

The tiddlywiki site is a tiddlywiki document. That alone tells you the difference.

Re: Show HN: Eidos – Offline alternative to Notion

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Post by JellyBeanThief »

huevosabio wrote: post #34

Tangent! I really wanted to like Notion but it's not smooth enough for writing. The cell system makes it clumsy. I prefer to write on markdown files because it's much faster and I can do it on my text editor of choice. I like obsidian because it's basically that with a bit of extras. But then I lose the concurrent editing. I want Google Docs meets obsidian type of environment. And I am yet to find it. If any of you k…

Anytype isn't there yet, but you should keep an eye on it

Re: Show HN: Eidos – Offline alternative to Notion

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

mayne wrote: post #54
Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What logseq is going to do is just dump documents to markdown (right now they use markdown),I think something along these lines is the way to go, store in sqlite and have a constant background process creating markdown files for everything

good idea. all documents are currently stored in the eidos__docs table. The `content` field is used to store the state of lexical documents in JSON format. Additionally, there is also a `markdown` field. This can be viewed by any sqlite software. Every time a document is updated, both fields are updated simultaneously, making it easy to convert to a file.

That's perfect. For what is worth, I like that's stored in sqlite because I can access it easily in a programmatic format if I need to

Re: Show HN: Eidos – Offline alternative to Notion

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Post by diego_moita »

karencarits wrote: post #38

I have tried quite many such apps and keep returning to Tiddlywiki ( https://tiddlywiki.com/ ). It is not perfect, and the lack of hierarchy can be both a blessing and a curse. It uses flat-files which can impact performance and be more cumbersome than a database. Also, the integration with external files is a bit clumsy. However, the main strength is customizability. Various data is best presented in various ways, a…

Tiddlywiki[1] + Syncthing[2] + Wireguard[3] = "Cloud? Why?"

[1] https://tiddlywiki.com/

[2] https://syncthing.net/

[3] https://www.wireguard.com/

Re: Show HN: Eidos – Offline alternative to Notion

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Post by scubbo »

dalmo3 wrote: post #64
enbugger wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is it different to Obsidian?

The tiddlywiki site is a tiddlywiki document. That alone tells you the difference.

That one is optimized to be a web site and the other is optimized to be a personal note-taking platform? ;P
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