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Re: Show HN: Creating custom coloring pages from photos. Great for parents/teachers

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Post by mkummer »

codingdave wrote: post #57
mkummer wrote: post #51

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With less "artistic license" [1] We use a model but not a diffusion model + controlnet which is what I'm assuming this website does. Would love any feedback on the results + site [2] – before it's asked: we do not use any user uploaded images for model training, they're only stored to show you the color version of your originally uploaded image [1] https://static.dreamandcolor.com/aa828ad1-5696-4d4e-95eb-bcd... [2] h…

It still has the vibe of janky edge-detection that can be done without AI. Admittedly, less janky than pure edge detection but still not quite smooth enough that I'd pay for the results. Also, just FYI, asking three different time across these comments for people to check out your site feels a bit spammy to me. I'd suggest you do your own 'Show HN' if you are trying to engage with the community here for feedback.

Fair, thanks for your feedback – some images work better than others in terms of the artifacting. There's lots of improvements we'd like to make, for now the best balance I've found is letting the user choose their level of detail on the site and add any masking lines as needed before PDF export

Re: Show HN: Creating custom coloring pages from photos. Great for parents/teachers

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Post by latexr »

xnx wrote: post #44
latexr wrote: post #31

> #1 Photo to Art App According to whom? There’s just that sentence, surrounded by laurel leaves, above five stars. Zero indication of where that award/rating came from. Did you make it up?

This one calls itself "#1 AI coloring page generator" https://colorbliss.art/

So they’re both confidently making stuff up without any sources or justification. Quite on brand for the current generation of generative AI.

Re: Show HN: Creating custom coloring pages from photos. Great for parents/teachers

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Post by latexr »

vidarh wrote: post #46
SamBam wrote: post #42

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This was absolutely my first reaction as well. I scrolled through the first few photos of White families where it seemed to turn even them into 1950s caricatures of "small town White Americans" and thought "hmmm, how's it going to treat Black people?" I was not at all surprised when it turned Black people into White people. This to me is one of the clearest examples I've seen of what people talk about when they talk…

The artistic license thing in itself I think is fine if only it didn't go just one direction. And you may very well be right that the examples it may have seen of coloring books may well be a very peculiar subset.

“Artistic license” assumes agency, that there is some artist who understands the facts of a situation and deliberately changes them in the work.

It does not apply to a machine doing a poor job because it lacks context in its training data. Just like medieval art, which was inaccurate¹ due to ignorance, not because the person doing the drawing decided to add some flare.

¹ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnB2Uj7gWSE

Re: Show HN: Creating custom coloring pages from photos. Great for parents/teachers

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Post by djleni »

vidarh wrote: post #26

My immediate issue, as the father of a mixed son who has just witnessed him spend hours trying to represent his own appearance accurately for an art task at school: This turns black and mixed people into white-presenting caricatures of themselves. E.g. compare [1] and [2] where the hairstyles of the black people are turned into distinctly "white" hairstyles. My son's hair is closer in texture to that of the man on th…

It turned my black dog into a beagle!

Re: Show HN: Creating custom coloring pages from photos. Great for parents/teachers

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Post by throwway120385 »

vidarh wrote: post #36
hk1337 wrote: post #35

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Honestly, when I first started reading your comment I thought you were being over sensitive but I totally get it looking at pictures 3 and 4. Even 5 and 6 completely changes the hairstyle.

I had to look for multiple examples myself before I was sure I wasn't being oversensitive. As I said, I'm sure there's no ill intent, and in a way I'm not surprised either, because as my son himself found out, if you're going to draw line art - especially with clear, thick lines like this, then accurately representing black or mixed hair without it turning into a caricature that'd be even worse is a skill. And one th…

It's galling for me once pointed out because I know that a lot of black people have totally different hair to the degree that it's a separate skill to cut that hair versus white people hair. I knew someone who would only have her sister cut her hair because none of the stylists in town could cut it without ruining the shape. They'd use the same tools and techniques as with perfectly straight hair and would destroy it. The hair is something that seems intensely personal and to have it erased and morphed so completely is really broken.
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