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Show HN: I made a free animator. Think Adobe Illustrator but for animation

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Re: Show HN: I made a free animator. Think Adobe Illustrator but for animation

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Post by notsahil »

mittermayr wrote: post #56

One quick comment: I was threatened and on the brink of being sued by one of Facebook's bigger law firms, because my domain was called "***gram.com" — I went through a couple of calls with them, and they confirmed that the only issue was the use of the word "gram". I tried to stick to my guns, knowing they had nothing (legally) on me, but eventually had to give in once they told me to research the ongoing cases they…

Any reference to it? I couldn't find anything about Facebook taking action on a domain ending with gram. Was your domain similar to instagram?

Because telegram is still out there.

Re: Show HN: I made a free animator. Think Adobe Illustrator but for animation

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Post by Chazprime »

notsahil wrote: post #61
mittermayr wrote: post #56

One quick comment: I was threatened and on the brink of being sued by one of Facebook's bigger law firms, because my domain was called "***gram.com" — I went through a couple of calls with them, and they confirmed that the only issue was the use of the word "gram". I tried to stick to my guns, knowing they had nothing (legally) on me, but eventually had to give in once they told me to research the ongoing cases they…

Any reference to it? I couldn't find anything about Facebook taking action on a domain ending with gram. Was your domain similar to instagram? Because telegram is still out there.

This is one of them that I remember from 2016:

https://www.theguardian.com/media-network/2016/dec/02/battle...

I don’t see how even Facebook could have an issue with “telegram” being used commercially, but I wouldn’t be totally surprised if they did.

Re: Show HN: I made a free animator. Think Adobe Illustrator but for animation

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Post by fransje26 »

albert_e wrote: post #44
Closi wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Totally agree! The major feature missing compared to Flash would be library and component support - i.e. the ability to create reusable animated graphics that you can drag onto the canvas (with infinite nesting). i.e. you can animate a bird with flapping wings, then drag 3 copies onto your sky.

Yes I absolutely loved that. I wish Microsoft PowerPoint built some of that so we could use it for light weight animations and story telling.

> Microsoft [...] light weight [...]

And interesting choice of words!

Re: Show HN: I made a free animator. Think Adobe Illustrator but for animation

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Post by jzellis »

Oh, man. I just barely glanced at the features and the editor but - and I mean this in the best possible way - it looks like you've recreated Flash.

Regardless of what anyone thinks about the proprietary file format and Actionscript and the rendering engine,the actual Flash app itself was one of the best vector animation tools of all time, and when it died we lost something cool and useful.

I'm really looking forward to playing with this in depth. Great job, man!

Re: Show HN: I made a free animator. Think Adobe Illustrator but for animation

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Post by jarek-foksa »

weinzierl wrote: post #52

A good SVG animation tool is dearly missing. I wish Inkscape could do it or there was an Inkscape-like animation tool, that does not hide but rather embraces the underlying SVG code. Can you tell how you approach to this is? Can you just export SVG animations or even import and edit without destroying the original structure?

> I wish Inkscape could do it or there was an Inkscape-like animation tool, that does not hide but rather embraces the underlying SVG code.

This is basically what I'm trying to achieve with Boxy SVG project: a vector graphics editor with UI similar to Inkscape, but focused primarily on SVG editing. It also allows you to easily switch between the code ("Elements") and timeline ("Animations") views: https://boxy-svg.com/blog/21

Re: Show HN: I made a free animator. Think Adobe Illustrator but for animation

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Post by lukan »

rekado wrote: post #46
justinclift wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. Not being FOSS is a blocker from my point of view as well. Already been through that exercise with Adobe and the Flash ecosystem. No interest at all in a repeat.

Here is a free software animator: https://www.synfig.org/ Development is kinda slow, but this also means that it still works just as well as when I made a little short movie 15 years ago.

Thanks, I never heard of this one, will try it out.

One very interesting new one is rive.app Closed app, free for 3 files, but open source renderer and GPU accelerated.

Re: Show HN: I made a free animator. Think Adobe Illustrator but for animation

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Post by jonwinstanley »

meekaaku wrote: post #40

Looks very nice. Is this on webgl? Speaking as a non-professional JS programmer, where can I read about how to architect a program like this where you select a tool, then that tool lets you draw (or do something) on canvas. Another tool, has a different behavior to mouse click/movement while initial placement and later editing of the nodes. Architect it in such a way that its not a long list of if statements for stat…

To be honest, depending on how many tools/features you want to add, that would be a very big project for a solo developer.

You'd need to build all of that functionality yourself. You detect where the user is pointing/clicking, then draw the element they are creating as visual feedback, then once done, persist the element somewhere.

If a user clicks on the element again, somehow display that it is selected and display the tools for editing.

You could build it in vanilla JS, or use a framework like React.

Re: Show HN: I made a free animator. Think Adobe Illustrator but for animation

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Post by tgv »

illwrks wrote: post #57

I’ve not looked at the tool, but are animations driven by CSS, and if so do you embed the CSS into the SVG? Where I work we’re looking at SVG animation tools for some graphics and the majority appear to be lottie-like tools dependent on JavaScript and other plugins which we can’t use.

It doesn't sound like CSS. The fans on my laptop came on after opening a simple animation (the Pythagorean proof). Firefox was at 100%.

Re: Show HN: I made a free animator. Think Adobe Illustrator but for animation

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Post by Springtime »

illwrks wrote: post #57

I’ve not looked at the tool, but are animations driven by CSS, and if so do you embed the CSS into the SVG? Where I work we’re looking at SVG animation tools for some graphics and the majority appear to be lottie-like tools dependent on JavaScript and other plugins which we can’t use.

SVGator[1] offers CSS or JS for animation export (no SMIL or hybrid it seems). I haven't used it but it came up in a prior HN discussion. Due to the traditional dearth of authoring tools I'm used to creating self-contained SVG animations manually via a text editor, by translating raster mockups, but glad there's at least one GUI authoring tool that considers such use cases.

[1] https://www.svgator.com/help/getting-started/js-animations-v...

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