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Re: Show HN: Dropbase – Build internal web apps with just Python

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Post by danielmarkbruce »

cjohnson318 wrote: post #39
ayazhan wrote: post #4

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thanks for the feedback! i'm curious, how critical are graphs for your internal tools and what are some examples of their use?

Pretty darn critical! I built a service a few years ago to scrape natural gas volumes from different refineries and my client wanted that data plotted over time. Another project collected and displayed wellhead pressure data. Oh yeah, maps are also super important, and being able to overlay different statistics and or graphics over them.

Hi - sorry for the random note - but would you mind chatting about this?

Re: Show HN: Dropbase – Build internal web apps with just Python

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Post by ayazhan »

blandry wrote: post #60
ayazhan wrote: post #49

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NiceGUI looks interesting, reminds me of reflex.dev a little bit. what kind of apps are you building with it?

I work on a Bioinformatics team, so we are a bunch of programmers, but not fully-fledged software engineers. We know Python well but have no front-end experience. Some examples: - Another non-technical team needs to know if our test covers specific genetic variants. The code to answer this is 10 lines of Python + a 100 line CSV. We can solve this with a CLI on our local computers but to serve it to the other team was…

these are great examples, thanks for sharing! the second one is particularly interesting. python seems like a perfect fit for that use case.

are there any limitations you encounter with NiceGUI? do you need a user permission feature or does each user get admin access? can you see it scaling up easily?

Re: Show HN: Dropbase – Build internal web apps with just Python

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Post by ayazhan »

zainhoda wrote: post #59
ayazhan wrote: post #47

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yes, that’s us. glad to see you remember our previous iteration :) internal app builder is certainly a challenging market to break into, but we believe we have something interesting to offer and are quite optimistic about our approach. were you a customer of the previous dropbase version (csv to database)? thanks again for your interest, it is always appreciated!

Oh man, I would love to compare notes. I pivoted in the reverse direction from: https://github.com/pycob/pyvibe To https://github.com/vanna-ai/vanna

Totally, i'll reach out!

Re: Show HN: Dropbase – Build internal web apps with just Python

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Post by blandry »

ayazhan wrote: post #62
blandry wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work on a Bioinformatics team, so we are a bunch of programmers, but not fully-fledged software engineers. We know Python well but have no front-end experience. Some examples: - Another non-technical team needs to know if our test covers specific genetic variants. The code to answer this is 10 lines of Python + a 100 line CSV. We can solve this with a CLI on our local computers but to serve it to the other team was…

these are great examples, thanks for sharing! the second one is particularly interesting. python seems like a perfect fit for that use case. are there any limitations you encounter with NiceGUI? do you need a user permission feature or does each user get admin access? can you see it scaling up easily?

Auth is a big limitation. It's not a built-in component, they have an example [1] using the FastAPI layer for auth, but I haven't had the time to try implementing it. It's definitely not something you get out of the box with NiceGUI.

For scaling, I am viewing it mostly as an internal tool builder. I wouldn't recommend it for external applications. So as far as scaling an internal app I think it works fine. Their website [2] is built with NiceGUI, and it works fine, but you can feel the lag occasionally on some of their larger demo pages.

1. https://github.com/zauberzeug/nicegui/blob/main/examples/aut...

2. https://nicegui.io

Re: Show HN: Dropbase – Build internal web apps with just Python

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Post by KANahas »

sirjaz wrote: post #58

It would be great if this could generate a desktop app rather than another webapp that I need to host somewhere. We need to focus on desktop apps again.

If you’re interested in Python desktop apps, check out TKinter. I have a piece of boilerplate code I typically start with, and within an hour I can have a finished piece of software that runs in the native windows manager on any OS with no libraries or frameworks to manage. It’s not the prettiest code but it’s very easy to write and I love how native it is.

Re: Show HN: Dropbase – Build internal web apps with just Python

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Post by jimmyechan »

blandry wrote: post #48

Looks cool! I think there is a huge need for tools like this, especially as AI turns more subject matter experts into programmers who can code a bit of python. At my company we have recently started using NiceGUI which is a python wrapper for quasars+tailwind and seems like a very similar product. I’ve found it has a great level of abstraction that enables you to do Python only web App development without too much ma…

> as AI turns more subject matter experts into programmers who can code a bit of python

I also think there's a good number of people who have basic Python skills coming from data analytics and data science backgrounds, who might not be doing hardcore ML research but who nonetheless want to build simple web apps. One of our hypotheses is that our product would be a good fit for them.

Re: Show HN: Dropbase – Build internal web apps with just Python

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Post by jimmyechan »

apstats wrote: post #65

This is really cool. I know lots of banks and trading firms have built home grown tools that do something similar to this.

Thanks! We've heard something similar - many Python tools in financial services. I think they build tools on R too. We should probably try to reach out to people in this industry to learn about the kinds of apps they build and whether their home grown tools are missing something we can ship

Re: Show HN: Dropbase – Build internal web apps with just Python

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Post by arcanemachiner »

ayazhan wrote: post #40
waydegg wrote: post #36

FastUI ( https://github.com/samuelcolvin/FastUI ), a fully OSS Python-to-React library was just launched recently too

this looks great, thanks for sharing! i’ll check it out. we are also big fans of Pydantic and FastAPI

Have you taken a look at django-ninja? It's like a modern take on Django Rest Framework (async + OpenAPI + Pydantic support are built-in)

Re: Show HN: Dropbase – Build internal web apps with just Python

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Post by jimmyechan »

arcanemachiner wrote: post #69
ayazhan wrote: post #40

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this looks great, thanks for sharing! i’ll check it out. we are also big fans of Pydantic and FastAPI

Have you taken a look at django-ninja? It's like a modern take on Django Rest Framework (async + OpenAPI + Pydantic support are built-in)

Not yet, but will check it out! Thanks for sharing it
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