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Re: Show HN: An app store just for installable web apps

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How do PWAs hold up when it comes to updates or getting a new phone? Will they get re-installed when I set up a new phone?

I've had them go missing just by doing an OTA update of my phone, and I don't think it was even a major Android version. Or maybe it was a Play store update of the Chrome app, I forget exactly. But it was one of those things that's not expected to eliminate data, yet it did.

I think it was this: https://support.google.com/android/thread/120942877/all-my-w...

Re: Show HN: An app store just for installable web apps

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post #37

Nice! I attempted adding my webapp. Do you have a template that I could add to my site (ie: add our app)?

Awesome! Were you able to add it successfully? We have a widget that you'll find under your claimed app to showcase your listing states, and we have a few more things that you can use on your app coming in about a week. If you're interested in early access, shoot me a message at support@store.app and we can show you what's coming.

Re: Show HN: An app store just for installable web apps

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This is awesome, as PWAs get better I really REALLY hope they'll challenge the big app stores. So far no one I know outside of tech knows or cares that this is even possible, but I hope sites like this will gradually change that and also change people's perceptions of what has to be a "native" app. I don't see any reason why in 10 years we should still be paying the 30% tax (+ the $100/year) just to get something wit…

When I install something from those stores, I feel like there is some level of vetting against malware, or at least the ability for the store to pull it if it becomes known-malicious after I installed it. 30% might be too much of a fee, but some payment for that service makes sense, I think. Are PWAs somehow immune to this concern by virtue of running on the way stricter feature set that a browser offers? If they can…

I totally agree, the security issue is the biggest thing app stores have going for them. I think 2 things.

1. if momentum goes PWA's way, smart people will work on these problems. I'm not saying I have the answers, but if I can root for either 2 megacorps or the open web, I'm going open web every time. (again, not saying we're there yet with PWAs)

2. If an app store's only function is vetting software, we can have an open market for marketplaces. Anyone can build their own app store and, with enough reputation, become trusted in the eyes of consumer's, just like we trust Apple The difference is in a free market, that 30% and $100 drop dramatically, I would wager to something more like 5% and $0.

At those rates, having an app store where people feel the software is secure, can trust reviews/ratings etc seems reasonable to me. PWA doesn't have to mean otherwise

Re: Show HN: An app store just for installable web apps

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This is awesome, as PWAs get better I really REALLY hope they'll challenge the big app stores. So far no one I know outside of tech knows or cares that this is even possible, but I hope sites like this will gradually change that and also change people's perceptions of what has to be a "native" app. I don't see any reason why in 10 years we should still be paying the 30% tax (+ the $100/year) just to get something wit…

When I install something from those stores, I feel like there is some level of vetting against malware, or at least the ability for the store to pull it if it becomes known-malicious after I installed it. 30% might be too much of a fee, but some payment for that service makes sense, I think. Are PWAs somehow immune to this concern by virtue of running on the way stricter feature set that a browser offers? If they can…

Service workers aren’t a magic “run forever in the background” technology.

I’m fairly sure PWAs can’t run in the background at all on iOS or Android, except for possibly a brief moment after the PWA receives a notification, and the service worker doesn’t have access to much of anything during that interval. If anyone can link to something that demonstrates otherwise, okay, but I have checked on this in the past, and I don’t think so.

Native apps have been caught with their hand in the metaphorical cookie jar over and over again. The App Store review process is largely ineffective. Apple apparently didn’t even realize that apps were doing sketchy things with the clipboard until it became a major headline[0], and this is only the tip of the iceberg of “things App Store review didn’t catch”.

Native apps continue to find ways to bypass sandboxing that the OS applies.

Browsers naturally take a much more adversarial posture against the code they’re running, so the sandboxing is far stronger.

Apple has spent at least a decade marketing[1] to convince people the App Store is synonymous with safety. Given how detached this seems to be from reality, the simplest conclusion seems to be that they do this because they really want their 30% cut. The marketing campaign seems to be working too well. In reality, the browser seems to be substantially safer, although nothing is perfect.

[0]: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06/tiktok-and-53-other-...

[1]:

https://apple.com/app-store/

“The apps you love. From a place you can trust. For over a decade, the App Store has proved to be a safe and trusted place to discover and download apps.”

Re: Show HN: An app store just for installable web apps

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> List your app in under 2 minutes How? I would like to list my finance PWA[1] but I had to create a regular account first and now wait for approval on a developer account to submit an app. [1] https://github.com/hbcondo/revenut-app

Hi! You should've been approved for a developer account. I suppose the delay could go past two minutes. We'll be speeding up this process soon. Hopefully in aggregate it only took you less than two mins :-) If you have any issues, ping me at support@store.app!

Re: Show HN: An app store just for installable web apps

#69
post #27

I like the concept a lot, but I also think it should filter to only installable apps by default. If you detect a user is on a mobile device, it would probably also make sense to enable the mobile filter by default too. It would also be nice if there was an offline-capable filter as well, but maybe I missed it? I also notice the Developer tab is not part of the PWA, which kicks you out of the PWA experience on iOS, ev…

> PWAs on iOS can finally show notifications This has been such a great addition, once it was officially added I've quickly built a small web app that can now distribute notifications to all my devices effortlessly, with a single codebase and with no need to pay the dreaded $99/yr subscription. Haven't released that publicly but I might at some point once I clean up the mess that inevitably resulted from me writing i…

Did you use a framework or anything? I’ve been working on a small vite/vue/nuxt PWA and I’ve been wondering about other options
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