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Re: Show HN: I built my first Cyberdeck

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Post by 1MachineElf »

bojo wrote: post #42
mk_stjames wrote: post #24

I like the slab form factors (One of my first portable computers was a Tandy Model 100) but I cannot understand how someone uses a keyboard that ...doesn't have at least all the letters and numbers and period/backslash/colon etc... especially for programming! I mean I get by reading a bit from the hackaday post that there are combos or 'chords' and so I guess you are meant to memorize these chord claw combinations fo…

It's just a thing. As a US qwerty layout user I've had to use JP while living in Japan. Got into mechanical keyboards and have used a 60% HHKB, 40% Vortex Core (chords), and now a fully programmable ZSA Moonlander of which no one but me could actually type a large set of special characters on. Then mix in the emacs, vim, kakoune obsession and, well, fluidity in key memorization is king. Have tinkered with the dvorak…

Impressive evolutionary history for your various keyboard and keyboard-focused tool preferences! Would like to know more.

Curious to know if you have any thoughts about the Eucalyn layout. It's a layout focused on Japanese, Vim, and Dvorak: https://eucalyn.hatenadiary.jp/entry/about-eucalyn-layout

Shameless plug, this is my Dvorak/Vim focused layout Small Board for Dvorak (SB4DV): https://github.com/1MachineElf/qmk_firmware/tree/_sb4dv/keyb...

Re: Show HN: I built my first Cyberdeck

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Post by 1MachineElf »

wlesieutre wrote: post #40
criddell wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there any slabtop’s still being made? All of those that you listed are discontinued. I do like the idea of having a very small, limited OS. I’ve often thought I’d love an updated Psion 5. With modern batteries and displays, you should be able to get months out of a set of batteries or battery charge.

Clockwork makes several https://www.clockworkpi.com/shop https://www.abortretry.fail/p/review-of-the-clockwork-pi-dev... R-01 is particular interesting for having a RISC-V processor

I ordered the CM4 Lite uConsole kit almost immediately after opening that first link.

That's a great price for a 4GB RAM CM4 given what they currently sell for on Amazon/eBay.

I currently own an A06 DevTerm but have been unsatisfied with it. Clockwork OS feels lacking, I wish there was a stand for it, and the keyboard isn't great. The uConsole CM4 can theoretically run Raspbian, has a built-in stand, and features a more compact keyboard. Better overall IMO.

If I end up liking it then I will go for the RISC-V option. Of the available RISC-V options I know of, it appears to be one of the best.

Re: Show HN: I built my first Cyberdeck

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Post by nickthegreek »

Gisbitus wrote: post #46
mk_stjames wrote: post #24

I like the slab form factors (One of my first portable computers was a Tandy Model 100) but I cannot understand how someone uses a keyboard that ...doesn't have at least all the letters and numbers and period/backslash/colon etc... especially for programming! I mean I get by reading a bit from the hackaday post that there are combos or 'chords' and so I guess you are meant to memorize these chord claw combinations fo…

I totally see where you’re coming from, and yes, the first few days on it were nightmarish, but I eventually got good on it. I code as fast as I do on my 65%, and not having to ever move your hands away from the main position is actually super comfortable! Chords and tap dancing definitely require a lot of muscle memory, but they are game changers.

Please add attribution to the cyberpunk image you are using on your github. That artist is Deathburger. https://citadel9.com/

Re: Show HN: I built my first Cyberdeck

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Post by w0m »

mk_stjames wrote: post #24

I like the slab form factors (One of my first portable computers was a Tandy Model 100) but I cannot understand how someone uses a keyboard that ...doesn't have at least all the letters and numbers and period/backslash/colon etc... especially for programming! I mean I get by reading a bit from the hackaday post that there are combos or 'chords' and so I guess you are meant to memorize these chord claw combinations fo…

> man I just don't get how someone could just unlearn the muscle memory of a normal keyboard layout

Honestly - this is the draw to unusual layouts to me. It's significantly helped RSI for typing too much. I don't need 'ultimate speed' really as much as comfort and physically being able to type.

It's medical! At least that's what i tell my wife (... and myself) when the credit card bill comes in.

Re: Show HN: I built my first Cyberdeck

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Post by Suppafly »

ZiiS wrote: post #55
mk_stjames wrote: post #24

I like the slab form factors (One of my first portable computers was a Tandy Model 100) but I cannot understand how someone uses a keyboard that ...doesn't have at least all the letters and numbers and period/backslash/colon etc... especially for programming! I mean I get by reading a bit from the hackaday post that there are combos or 'chords' and so I guess you are meant to memorize these chord claw combinations fo…

Actually this one is really cleaver. The keys you see are actually a full QWERTY in the normal layout so no memorizing chords for typing English. [Shift] is just long-pressing Z so you are not completely confounding your muscle memory. Numbers and arrows being behind a fn key seems a good trade off for the space saved. So really only `[];',/` are become chords to match `{}:@ ?` on a full keyboard.

space being saved for what though? space saved is a false economy.

Re: Show HN: I built my first Cyberdeck

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Post by ZiiS »

Suppafly wrote: post #68
ZiiS wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually this one is really cleaver. The keys you see are actually a full QWERTY in the normal layout so no memorizing chords for typing English. [Shift] is just long-pressing Z so you are not completely confounding your muscle memory. Numbers and arrows being behind a fn key seems a good trade off for the space saved. So really only `[];',/` are become chords to match `{}:@ ?` on a full keyboard.

space being saved for what though? space saved is a false economy.

Most people use a 0% keyboard on thier tablet; I think space is the most premium. Personally I would not go this far in a desktop keyboard. Though I trade away the numpad to save space for a more central mouse.

Re: Show HN: I built my first Cyberdeck

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Post by mech422 »

Gisbitus wrote: post #6
mech422 wrote: post #5

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Heh - I can't resist throwing a mention in for my favorite here too (1). Available, cheap, x86 based... I love them :-) I have 3-4 of the H2 models, and they have only gotten better ! 1. https://ameridroid.com/products/odroid-h3

thank you!

NP - I'm not affiliated with them...but dam, I love those lil machines :-)

Hapy Hacking!

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