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> you're far better off learning how to treat the room properly Would you have some pointers on this? I've been looking into this and while I've found pointers on "what to do", what's missing is where to actually find the necessary panels and how to figure if they're actually worth anything.
Build your own panels with rockwool insulation. There way better than almost anything you'll find on the market and easy even for no talent carpenters like myself
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That's the 'device with an imperfect response curve', I assume. In fairness, the readme does state: > A good microphone is needed, with a wide frequency range and preferably with a flat frequency response. By 'preferably' I assume it's implied that it can curve-fit (whatever's needed, I know next to nothing about this) to a non-flat microphone response, as long as it's known, but if it's flat then no need. If it's un…
i always wondered, is it possible to take a cheaper mic or iems and "flatten" them via an eq, to perform nearly as well as professional gear that's 3x the price? i just picked up a pair of KZ AS06 iems [1] and my listening preference is U shaped (which is how these are dialed in out of the box), but i imagine with quality hardware and e.g. 3+ dedicated, drivers it should be possible to flatten them out in an eq. [1]…
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You'd also be relying very heavily on the microphone used to measure it.
That's the 'device with an imperfect response curve', I assume. In fairness, the readme does state: > A good microphone is needed, with a wide frequency range and preferably with a flat frequency response. By 'preferably' I assume it's implied that it can curve-fit (whatever's needed, I know next to nothing about this) to a non-flat microphone response, as long as it's known, but if it's flat then no need. If it's un…
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#65I am lucky enough to have a spare room in my house, and set out to build a studio (an almost life-long dream) and decided that I didn't want to compromise on the acoustics and spent some time looking into the subject. In the end I built it myself with a huge amount of acoustic treatment (lost a large amount of the volume room), but more that that I enlisted the help of a professional who could do the maths and help with not just the trapping but also the panels that are needed. In the end after I built it was also tuned with DSP by the professional, has what you would normally call 4-way speakers with the subwoofers going to a higher frequency than most would consider normal and even the desk was specifically chosen to not cause a problem for the listening environment. The difference between this and something like Sonarworks (commercial software that I tried for a laugh beforehand) cannot be overstated. It's basically flat between 23hz (slightly rises at 20hz I believe) and 20Khz - we actually tuned in a more natural response curve.
It's still a home studio because it's in my home and I don't do anything commercial with it, but it's pretty much mastering grade, all with materials that are available in a builders yard and the special sauce, someone that knew what they are doing. Not everyone has the room or space to do this, but most people can build some bass traps and something to tame first point reflections.
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#66I highly suggest getting flat neutral speakers first. Preferably high end studio monitors. What would be interesting is if someone can work on music-specific optimization based on a handful of inferences and ML.
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#67Cool project! I recently bought a set of iLoud MTM monitor speakers which come with a special mic which they use to analyse the room and correct for it in a similar way to this. It makes a good difference to the sound - highly recommend the speakers if you are looking for a smallish set of monitor speakers that sound great and can be used very near field so you can use lower volumes.
But because of their size they don't always activate room acoustics in a crazy way, and a lot of people monitor with them fairly close so don't need them loud either further lessening the problems.
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Is it affordable for mortals or is this a business only offering?
Certainly expensive. ~300 eur/usd with mic (and you need a proper audio interface to support the mic). A bit sad, because it might do most for less expensive speakers and untreated rooms.
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#69Isn't it basically what "DRC" does? (Digital Room Correction) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_room_correction I don't remember the exact order but way, way, way before the $10 K USD digital audio cable snake oil, audiophiles are going to say that DRC is the second single biggest thing that can enhance the quality of your setup (the first one being which speakers you're using and how you place them). Then source…
$10K digital audio cables are never a good idea.
I remember I went to some audiophiles house once to demo some speakers, and his "hobby" seemed to have taken over the house and common sense. He had crazy expensive audio equipment and some of the thickest cables I have seen, with the cables all suspended on little bridges.
All this in a room which was basically a square brick construction with glass windows on 3 sides, no thought to any treatment. He didn't seem to understand that the room was effecting the sound more than any DAC, Amp, Cable, or any of the other voodoo that was going on. I couldn't properly demo the speakers because of a particular standing wave. I concluded he probably had a hearing problem, he concluded he needed to upgrade a cable.
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#70How does this compare to just buying a good headphone?