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Re: Show HN: Umbrel – A personal server OS for self-hosting

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Post by slightwinder »

ensignavenger wrote: post #31
pengaru wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The license forbids me to hire another vendor to service the product. That is the definition of vendor lock-in. Where in the license does it forbid such a thing? Commercial use != an individual paying for third party support/service/development.

I don't know what the intended definition of Commercial is, as it is not defined in the license, but the common definition is: >> used for selling goods or providing services for money, rather than for personal use ( https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/commerci... ) An individual being paid to provide a service is commercial under that, and most legal definitions of the word.

> An individual being paid to provide a service is commercial under that, and most legal definitions of the word.

The license only forbids third-party to offer Umbrel by themselves. If you pay for hosting, and install it on your own, it would be fine.

Re: Show HN: Umbrel – A personal server OS for self-hosting

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Post by declon »

forum_ghost wrote: post #58
eightysixfour wrote: post #55

In the middle of building a self-hosting setup at home so I went ahead and installed this to give it a trial run. I generally like the interface and think it is a nice take on making self-hosting easier, but I have some pure stream of conscious criticism: 1. There sure are a lot of crypto apps. I'm not vehemently anti-crypto, but it is missing some "obvious" applications and full of those, so I'm curious what the pla…

> missing some "obvious" applications what would that be?

> Plex and/or jellyfin stand out as huge misses right out of the gate.

Re: Show HN: Umbrel – A personal server OS for self-hosting

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Post by nullcipher »

ensignavenger wrote: post #5

If some one is going through the trouble of self hosting, why would they want to use a closed source proprietary OS to do it? Most of the apps available for this are open source, so why not host them on an open source system and not have any vendor lock-in?

self hosting doesn't always mean opensource. could be people wanting to have control of their data. there are many closed source self hosting apps - emby, plex, confluence/jira, teamspeak, filerun to name a few.

Re: Show HN: Umbrel – A personal server OS for self-hosting

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Post by heywoodlh »

Jeff_Brown wrote: post #48

Why is setting up your own server so hard? I recently tried to set up an SSH server on NixOS and gave up after a day. And I love NixOS.

*Disclaimer: I'm not trying to be rude with my question, please forgive any perceived negative tone -- I am just curious.

> I recently tried to set up an SSH server on NixOS and gave up after a day. And I love NixOS.

Setting up OpenSSH is one of the more trivial tasks on any Unix-like operating system. So I'm curious as to why you "love" NixOS despite it sounding like you aren't comfortable with (at least what I consider) a very trivial system setting change?

If you add the following to your configuration.nix and rebuild your system this will setup OpenSSH:

``` services.openssh.enable = true; ```

And if you have enabled the firewall you can make sure that port 22 is allowed with this:

``` networking.firewall.allowedTCPPorts = [ 22 ]; ```

And then just rebuild your system.

Being unable to enable SSH on NixOS sounds more of like a lack of understanding of how to use NixOS. Again, I'm exceedingly curious as to why you love NixOS but are unable to make such a trivial change to your system? Did you actually install NixOS on your system?

I am a huge fan of people at any stage of expertise loving NixOS and playing with it and I apologize if this question sounds like me being a dick or trying to police your experience -- please continue to love NixOS!

Re: Show HN: Umbrel – A personal server OS for self-hosting

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Post by wmf »

eightysixfour wrote: post #55

In the middle of building a self-hosting setup at home so I went ahead and installed this to give it a trial run. I generally like the interface and think it is a nice take on making self-hosting easier, but I have some pure stream of conscious criticism: 1. There sure are a lot of crypto apps. I'm not vehemently anti-crypto, but it is missing some "obvious" applications and full of those, so I'm curious what the pla…

Umbrel started as a crypto-focused project before branching out to general self-hosting: http://web.archive.org/web/20200726114748/https://getumbrel....

Re: Show HN: Umbrel – A personal server OS for self-hosting

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Post by wmf »

nathan_phoenix wrote: post #43

Looks great on first look, but on closer inspection saw that it's written in pure JavaScript (0% TypeScript) + Bash. Honestly makes me a bit worried about security. Now, I'm not so thrilled about it anymore...

It's mostly a Web UI for Docker Compose so I'm not sure what else it would be written in.

Re: Show HN: Umbrel – A personal server OS for self-hosting

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Post by wmf »

chrisshroba wrote: post #28
layer8 wrote: post #22

At this point, any marketing copy using the word “beautiful” is a major turn-off for me.

Pretty sure I'm in the minority of HN folks, but I'm a fan of tools/OS'es/whatever that make a concerted effort to follow design trends and present a modern-looking UX.

The problem is that products that call themselves beautiful almost always aren't.
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