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Show HN: Flight Penguin – Like Hipmunk, but a browser extension

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Re: Show HN: Flight Penguin – Like Hipmunk, but a browser extension

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Requiring login and claiming not to sell PII look contradictory though, and will prevent some people (me for instance) from using your service.

Why does it look contradictory? Are you saying you just don't trust anyone who collects PII not to sell it, even if they've said they won't?

Hacks

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Re: Show HN: Flight Penguin – Like Hipmunk, but a browser extension

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post #46
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Requiring login and claiming not to sell PII look contradictory though, and will prevent some people (me for instance) from using your service.

Why does it look contradictory? Are you saying you just don't trust anyone who collects PII not to sell it, even if they've said they won't?

They did not said that they won't.

Re: Show HN: Flight Penguin – Like Hipmunk, but a browser extension

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Looks nice... so I tried it. Starting airport: There are 4 around London, can I select any? Destination airport: There are 2 around Lisbon, can I select any? Already I have 8 permutations of things I don't want to think about. Got a search result but it didn't render correctly... I use noscript but this is a privileged tab and there's nothing to allow and I don't see what else it might need. Tried sorting to see if u…

Re: airports. You can select any airport or the city - which should grab them all (e.g. City of London (LON), London Heathrow (LHR), etc.). Re: Noscript. I haven't tested with noscript, but have with most major adblockers. We do use the chrome extension API to open windows in the background to collect flight data and eventually to redirect you to for booking. I'll get it installed and see if I can replicate it. Might…

I really prefer the Hipmunk interface to anything else, but being able to select multiple airports is a killer feature of Google Flights for me, and Flight Penguin won't be able to get my business without it. Being able to select a metro area is not a viable substitute: I live in the middle of nowhere, but about equidistant to two airports - one to the East and one to the West. But they're not in the same metro area (or the same state, or the same time zone).

Re: Show HN: Flight Penguin – Like Hipmunk, but a browser extension

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I greatly miss Hipmunk, and would really like a successor. But I'm confused as to why this needs to be a browser extension instead of just a website. Even if you provide extra features as an extension, show comparisons if I'm flight sites, etc, I'd still like to just have a website I can go to to search flights, not requiring a browser extension to use.

The short answer is because certain airlines behave in ways I can best describe as 'scummy'. Some airlines are now demanding anti-consumer provisions when they do deals with travel sites, such as insisting that sites hide cheaper flights, hide multi-airline itineraries, and hide certain booking options. We think this compromises the user experience heavily and erodes trust - you don't know if you're getting the best…

If the travel sites hide the cheapest flights to users, then where does your extension 'scrape' its data from.

Is this more like a crowd-sourced data gathering, where every extension user gathers data for you?

Re: Show HN: Flight Penguin – Like Hipmunk, but a browser extension

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My gut reaction was that as a browser extension, you would have the ability to add airlines that refuse to participate in the current travel sites, e.g., Southwest? But I don't see them in the results...

Your gut reaction is not wrong. That being said, I think it's wise to pick the right time to leverage this capability. Our resources are extremely limited at the moment in comparison to one of the most aggressively litigious entities in our space.

Southwest fares integrated with other airlines is pretty much the reason why I'd install something like this. Also, getting sued might be good PR, you could probably spin that into some great news coverage. Streisand effect.

Re: Show HN: Flight Penguin – Like Hipmunk, but a browser extension

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I might be the minority, but I have no idea what Hipmunk did and I only know Kayak because they bought Swoodoo (they did, right? And have they added features in the 4 years since I last used them?) - so maybe your intro text on the site should be clearer what it does and not sell itself as the "x but better". Yes, it says it's flight search, but not front and center.

Re: Show HN: Flight Penguin – Like Hipmunk, but a browser extension

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Why does the extension need a Google login? I deleted the login div from the HTML, and the extension works fine without the login.

They intend to make money selling your data.

> Monetize without ads: As a browser extension, we can focus on monetizing free users by selling information about user's search intent.

source: https://wefunder.com/flightpenguin https://ucarecdn.com/965fe8bc-2ccd-4bd9-9984-465144810f57/-/...

Re: Show HN: Flight Penguin – Like Hipmunk, but a browser extension

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My gut reaction was that as a browser extension, you would have the ability to add airlines that refuse to participate in the current travel sites, e.g., Southwest? But I don't see them in the results...

Oh interesting, I didn't realize some airlines opt out from current travel sites.

Can you explain the rational behind that behavior?

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