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Re: Show HN: Stuff – An Alternative to Facebook Events

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Post by TheShrug »

prophesi wrote: post #57
TheShrug wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand that you are not fans of Facebook. But couldn't this be a good opportunity to show Facebook users that there is an alternative out there? I'm just not sure that restricting users who primarily use Facebook oauth does any good, to me it feels like a wasted opportunity!

I think the only reason to include FB OAuth is if it allowed such users to integrate the service with FB Events (which, AFAIK, isn't possible with their current API). I'd say it's a given that FB users also use Google, and would be just as likely to use either service's OAuth.

I think that's a safe assumption. Anecdotally though, I prefer to stick with one service and if I was offered options that didn't include my primary choice I might be reluctant to sign up. I just don't think that intentionally walling out a group of potential users is a great idea if you're trying to expand your audience.

I tried to quickly find some numbers on distribution between them. Although I didn't find anything concrete, it seems to be Facebook > Google > LinkedIn. I would actually love to know more about this. Maybe someone with more experience has some more data?

Re: Show HN: Stuff – An Alternative to Facebook Events

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Post by diminoten »

stuffhq wrote: post #50
KerryJones wrote: post #49

This is a great idea and events are one of the things holding me on to FB, but the friction to signing up by not offering an option to OAuth (even for event creators). I don't want another email/account and potential leak in the future -- just let me oauth with Google/FB/LinkedIn, etc.

We are looking into Google/Linkedin Oauth. Not fans of Facebook, though... -Simon, Stuff.li

Yeah, which is why using their oauth is a great way to stick it to them! Obviously don't only use it, but giving their users a one-click way to leave their platform is hilarious!

Re: Show HN: Stuff – An Alternative to Facebook Events

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Post by stuffhq »

dblock wrote: post #23

Huge fan of any effort that gets rid of FB events. My biggest feature request in this space is around address book and inviting new people to a larger event. I want something that can, for example, check my email or other contacts and surface anyone I've been connected with since the last party. Btw, I no longer have a facebook account and only held on to it for events, until I didn't. Now when I don't get invited to…

Thanks for the feedback. We are looking into different opportunities - and weighing pros vs. cons on functionality and privacy. But one thing is sure, we will do our best to create something you will rather use than Facebook, Evite, Paperless post etc :-)

Simon, Stuff.

Re: Show HN: Stuff – An Alternative to Facebook Events

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Post by stuffhq »

below43 wrote: post #42

I recommend testing your responsive site on smaller mobiles (I’m on an iPhone SE and your site is too wide for the screen) Edit: it’s the “Create Invitation Now” button pushing the width out too much.

Thank you. I've spotted a few views that needs some love. Will have it fixed by Friday. Thank you for the heads-up. -Simon, Stuff.

Re: Show HN: Stuff – An Alternative to Facebook Events

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Post by tuxxy »

stuffhq wrote: post #50
KerryJones wrote: post #49

This is a great idea and events are one of the things holding me on to FB, but the friction to signing up by not offering an option to OAuth (even for event creators). I don't want another email/account and potential leak in the future -- just let me oauth with Google/FB/LinkedIn, etc.

We are looking into Google/Linkedin Oauth. Not fans of Facebook, though... -Simon, Stuff.li

A refreshing display of values, thank you.

Re: Show HN: Stuff – An Alternative to Facebook Events

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Post by quickthrower2 »

huangc10 wrote: post #17

The whole point of Facebook events is that it's already integrated with a social network so it's easy to invite people. I dislike the whole concept of Facebook but sorry, but I find this idea really counter intuitive? Creating social events online but not through a social network... *edit, so I can provide some constructive criticism. Maybe integrate this with social networks such as Facebook or Twitter (which I gues…

Have we got to the point where we don’t know where our friends live, their phone numbers, their email addresses and Facebook is the only way to contact them? Social networks didn’t exist not too long ago. People met up.

Re: Show HN: Stuff – An Alternative to Facebook Events

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Post by Perceptes »

stuffhq wrote: post #3
trebor wrote: post #2

One thing unanswered by your site (prior to signing up anyway) is what the cost is, or how you make money. Also, your about page is just a copy of your homepage content. Other than those 2 things, it looks very nice. :)

Thanks you so much for the feedback. - It is free; and I know we should be more vocal about that. - We will make money on the professional organisers at some point. Looking into different models with a bunch of different organisers.

It's probably worth making this clear up front. If I see that a service is free, I assume advertisements as a business model, which I believe is fundamentally at odds with any claims of privacy and transparency, which your service also claims. If the users are not paying you, your financial incentive to protect their privacy is not clear.

Re: Show HN: Stuff – An Alternative to Facebook Events

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Post by EGreg »

I was going to show something similar, I think there is a huge space for it. But been done a lot of times. Google “The uphill battle of social event sharing” published by one of our advisors in 2009 or so.

Maybe make it and sell it to festivals, like this:

https://davosapp.com

Re: Show HN: Stuff – An Alternative to Facebook Events

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Post by stuffhq »

bruhbruhbruh wrote: post #44

I'm confused by your event time fields, are they 24hr? I tried to enter in 2:33pm to 2:33pm and got validation errors.

Time fields are 24hr. I don't have any issues entering 2:33pm/2:33pm in Chrome/Safari. Could you please try again and send me a screenshot on simon@stuff.li so we could have it resolved. Thank you. Simon, Stuff.

Re: Show HN: Stuff – An Alternative to Facebook Events

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Post by jrochkind1 »

Semaphor wrote: post #37
jrochkind1 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook events is one of the only things keeping a lot of people I know on facebook. But, yeah, it's hard to go to something else cause of the friction. What we really need is something that is as integrated into fb events as fb, but _also_ allows people who aren't on fb to find and keep track of and RVSP to events. I think facebook API's don't really allow you to have that kind of integration for a third-party thin…

> Facebook events is one of the only things keeping a lot of people I know on facebook. Yeah, it's true for me. I barely use messenger anymore (married the person I wrote the most with), and even then I use it via Trillian. I open facebook maybe 2-3 times per week to check events and that's it. But with all their crappy UX, events is still better than alternatives to see what friends are doing and what's going on loc…

And I think it's _really hard_ for a contender like `stuff` to become a better alternative for many people without the 'social network' features of facebook. An easy way to see what events your friends are interested in, as a primary one.
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