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Re: Show HN: Checklist of over 100 directories to submit your startup

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It’s not a dark pattern(1) if you enter the amount yourself (and you can enter 0.01$ I assume). (1) “Dark Patterns are tricks used in websites and apps that make you buy or sign up for things that you didn't mean to.” https://darkpatterns.org/

ok, maybe dark pattern is a bit strong, but I clearly clicked the button thinking I could just download it, and instead was presented with a form to buy it. It's a least a little disingenuous.

You don’t need to buy it, you can enter zero in the form and get it for free. It’s basically donationware

Re: Show HN: Checklist of over 100 directories to submit your startup

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Agreed. $89 is basically 89 cents per submission. My time is worth a lot more than that. I would be glad to pay for this service (and probably will) just for the backlink juice.

I will do the job for 50 bucks if you want...

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Re: Show HN: Checklist of over 100 directories to submit your startup

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Why do you think that my _particular_ audience frequents either of these directories? Entrepreneurs should go after their customers, first and foremost. Submitting to irrelevant directories is not only lost time. It's dangerous because it suggests that we are doing something useful and that we don't have to chase the real audience anymore.

I'm always wary of startup founders sharing startup launches to each other. Big red flag. Completely skews all advice/critique/reception.

I'm fine with others doing it so I can have a better picture of the competition in the personal finance sector that I'm developing an app for.

Re: Show HN: Checklist of over 100 directories to submit your startup

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You didn't submit the link though. When a journalist does a quick search of their email to see what correspondence there's been before they won't see you. They'll see Eggradients, and whatever Eggradients put in that initial submission. That might be something great. Equally it might be terrible. Imagine if it said "Eggradients client ACME STARTUP is really good. Please contact Eggradients if you would like to know m…

And that would be different from a standard PR company submitting me...how?

One is spammy, the other isn't

Re: Show HN: Checklist of over 100 directories to submit your startup

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Great deal. Until you get a Google Penguin penalty and have to spend $10k+ in employee time getting it corrected, disowning backlinks and so on.

Some types of company see penalties (or cleanup cost) as a cost of doing business. If they make > $10k to incur $10k in costs, then it works out. It's a faulty way of seeing things, but businesses like that tend to have a fog around them. They don't see the icebergs coming.

First failed assumption of course being that they'll automatically make > $10k

Re: Show HN: Checklist of over 100 directories to submit your startup

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Isn't this just a minor pivot of now obsolete SEO directory spam? Submitting to show HN, Crunchbase and /r/programming will require 3 dramatically different entries and info. I don't believe that's achievable for $89 unless you want to do it badly. What cost your reputation?

But the linked startup is about SEO, i.e. spamming/abusing these communities to generate links, by offering a paid service for it. EDIT: I understand your comment now, yes it is. How this startup got funded I have no idea, it's a decade-old SEO "sh*tlording" technique :/

You assume it is funded. It could be a lone wolf with a submission script, or access to cheap labor. The site itself is hosted on a site builder, and payments are via Gumroad. (none of that is bad, but doesn't scream funded)

Re: Show HN: Checklist of over 100 directories to submit your startup

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But the linked startup is about SEO, i.e. spamming/abusing these communities to generate links, by offering a paid service for it. EDIT: I understand your comment now, yes it is. How this startup got funded I have no idea, it's a decade-old SEO "sh*tlording" technique :/

You assume it is funded. It could be a lone wolf with a submission script, or access to cheap labor. The site itself is hosted on a site builder, and payments are via Gumroad. (none of that is bad, but doesn't scream funded)

You are right, should of maybe included "if so". But still, surprising someone would think covering up SEO shitlording with such a thin veil would fool anybody. From the other comments here, it seems that the reason SEO is just generally negative in 90% of its aspects, has been forgotten. People have a short memory these days, and I'm sure that if people on HN have forgotten, then it won't be long until we have link spam, algo spam, cramming, bots, trackers, and the whole SEO shitlord shitlist back on the table.

Apologies for my French. It's just that HN is a lot smarter than this...

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