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Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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Post by bootlooped »

euphetar wrote: post #39

It seems like a good idea, but won't work. I can't imagine two horny teens like: M: Show me something hot baby F: Sure! But please install that app to take all the nececary security precautions before we proceed with our sexting... This will gain traction among camgirls and other people that produce private porn (I just invented that term because I don't know how one would call porn distributed on an individual basis…

This would lower resistance to making a video in the first place due to the stronger security. Surely some people would not use it because they aren't security minded or they're inebriated or something, but I think it does have value.

Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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euphetar wrote: post #39

It seems like a good idea, but won't work. I can't imagine two horny teens like: M: Show me something hot baby F: Sure! But please install that app to take all the nececary security precautions before we proceed with our sexting... This will gain traction among camgirls and other people that produce private porn (I just invented that term because I don't know how one would call porn distributed on an individual basis…

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Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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Post by dsacco »

This is a cool idea.

I expressed an upfront concern about reverse engineering in another comment directly to the OP (no DRM is foolproof, etc). After skimming through the whitepaper I'd like ask you a few implementation questions about the feasibility of client trust:

• Can you tell me how the device token/keys are stored locally and accessed by the application? I understand the crypto itself (e.g. libsodium), but I'd like to know how you're protecting data on the client insofar as you can.

• Can you tell me what your methodology is for determining if an application has been manipulated or altered?

• How are you specifically obfuscating sensitive data or otherwise making the DRM bypass difficult (e.g. obfuscating data in .so files, etc).

I'm not trying to grief you here, I just want to talk about technical protection mechanisms in place. To your credit, you explicitly admitted that DRM is fundamentally not a foolproof guarantee (though that's different from saying it's not effective...). I think your app would mitigate most scenarios where an ex would try and expose the other party.

Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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Post by mirimir »

aninteger wrote: post #42
duiker101 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As always, the only way to be certain your genitals wont be on the internet is to not film them. But then again.... that's not fun.

I think you're being sarcastic, but I just can't tell. I'd guess 99% of people doing this have just as much fun without filming.

I don't get the point of sextapes. I have excellent recall, so why do I need a video record?

Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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Post by edoceo »

dfc wrote: post #41
mseebach wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TL;DR: Very long and pretty offensive post that boils down to "because the courts aren't stupid and can probably tell the difference and by the way there are some specific legal requirement that when making porn you need to cross-reference IDs and you're probably not doing it".

Pretty offensive? What is it that you find so offensive about the post?

The domain mocks the Pope's hat.

Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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Post by moron4hire »

mirimir wrote: post #64
aninteger wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're being sarcastic, but I just can't tell. I'd guess 99% of people doing this have just as much fun without filming.

I don't get the point of sextapes. I have excellent recall, so why do I need a video record?

I don't get the point of handcuffs in the bedroom, but some people like them, so that's up to them.

If you don't understand someone's sexual preference, the correct response is no response. You're not obligated to comment on everything.

Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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Post by lookACamel »

pateldeependra wrote: post #57

This is not foolproof. What if someone records the video from another phone while playing. Similar to snapchat.

I think the idea is that during the relationship both parties are at peace so neither party will have any desire to do something underhanded like recording the video from another phone. This app addresses the problem that occurs when the relationship ends on a bad note and one party has to the urge to harm the other through whatever means necessary.

Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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Post by dsacco »

Freak_NL wrote: post #51
nathankot wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP here, this is addressed in the FAQ, I'll paste it here :) > How do I know my partner won't abuse my trust? > You can't. However with Rumuki you have the discretion to only grant playbacks when you can keep an eye on them. You also have the option to revoke all playback grants and delete the recording if trust is ever lost.

While you literally did address the question (and I applaud you for responding), you didn't actually answer it. There is, of course, no technological way to prevent someone from capturing a video through the analogue hole (i.e., pointing a camera to the video as it is played), even if we assume that is possible that a consumer device can be controlled to such an extent that its owner can't find a way to capture the v…

To the OP's credit, this is explicitly called out in the whitepaper introduction. I think the point is that this app makes casual, "in the heat of the moment" backstabbing pretty difficult.

In my opinion this is fair, because the vast majority of bitter/petty ex's are not going to know how to, or bother with, reverse engineering an app to spite their significant other. They'd also have to do it when they're granted access to the app, which implies a certain forethought.

Re: Show HN: Rumuki, a prenup for sex tapes

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Post by lookACamel »

mirimir wrote: post #64
aninteger wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're being sarcastic, but I just can't tell. I'd guess 99% of people doing this have just as much fun without filming.

I don't get the point of sextapes. I have excellent recall, so why do I need a video record?

You can't imagine that other people might not have 'excellent recall'?
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