Another app built on Electron, cool to see the platform enabling web developers to make the jump to application development
I've been using CEF for many years where I work, nothing new (as usual).
Show HN: Plain Email – An app for one-touch email processing
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
I assume he means the "swipe left or right" aspect of Tinder. That is, responding to an email is just a matter of taking one action.
That's really odd, because Tinder is not known for the "swipe left or right" aspects of their app, more for their reputation as a sex hook-up app. My confused impression when I read the title was "A sex hook-up app that uses e-mail?"
To kids my age (lower 20s) swiping is absolutely linked with tinder.
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#63Although there's a strong "email sucks" sentiment in the world, I believe the truth is that email is a complex system that has actually already evolved quite well. Gmail is quite an adept tool.
The inherent issue is volume - which isn't per-se the fault of the medium. Filtering and categorization has been the primary answer there - and those things (including this post) have helped evolve those issues.
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#64Just a heads up, my workplace McAfee Web Gateway filters this website under the category "Phishing" with a "Medium Risk" reputation. Perhaps the previous domain owner wasn't the most reputable. Not sure what you have to do to get off of McAfee's list, but wanted to mention it as it might keep people from being able to visit your site.
Re: Show HN: Plain Email – An app for one-touch email processing
#65Let's try a bit of wordsmithing. Either stick to the 4 D's of GTD: Delete, Do, Delegate, Defer; or use the commonplace terms: Archive, Reply, Forward, Snooze. When you do this, do you start to realize how similar it looks to existing email clients? By the way you say there is no Snooze button- then what is Defer? And one-touch, not "single-touch."
If I'm reading it right, "defer" means you actually schedule an appointment in a calendar. I much rather prefer the idea of snoozing (a fixed delay before reappearing) better. If I'm not interested in dealing with something now, then I'm also not really interested in vetting calendar space for it at that exact moment either.
In GTD parlance defer doesn't require a calendar appointment, it just means 'don't do right now'. Basically if a task takes more than 2 minutes to do but you intend to do it at some point, then it should not interrupt processing, but should be moved from an inbox to a 'trusted system' for organizing and tracking tasks.
Snoozing works ok, but strict GTD tries to build a discipline of not having items re-appear in the inbox. If it's moved to a list of things to handle, then it can be ignored or placed at a lower priority on that list.
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's really odd, because Tinder is not known for the "swipe left or right" aspects of their app, more for their reputation as a sex hook-up app. My confused impression when I read the title was "A sex hook-up app that uses e-mail?"
To kids my age (lower 20s) swiping is absolutely linked with tinder.
To kids my age (~40) it's the only thing I know about it as the [UK] media regularly references "Tinder" and "swipe left" [dismiss?].
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#67Why is "defer" different from "snooze"? Both indicate picking a time to deal with the email.
Defer seems to ambiguously capture both snooze and delegate.
Defer only means to put off until later. There's no delegate meaning.
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#69This assumes an inbox is a type of "project" that needs to be "completed". It's structured on the concept of removing messages from my screen until there is nothing left for me to "do". My inbox is often more of a conversation that I fade in and out of. Sometimes it resembles a facebook feed. Granted, I'm not a type A personality, but not all email is has to be "done" anymore than all reading books need to be "done".…
It also highly depends on your office culture around email, and how it affects your personal workflow.
At one job, it was like writing letters to fellow warriors across continents. You'd try to be thoughtful, taking a day or more to write really concrete and informational pieces. At another job it was basically the office instant messenger, replies were expected within 10 minutes of almost all email. Having direct reports changes a lot of how you're communicated with as well.
Right now I've been using notmuch+org-mode (to do list management that can link to emails, files, websites, etc), and so now I file tasks called "Read X" if it doesn't need immediate response, or archive/mark as read if I don't need to read it. Things that take less than a few minutes I do right away.
Once you take things as merely inputs to your personal management system, you no longer have to worry about how an app pushes it's workflow on you, you have an external one. This is why text files/physical papers are amazing - it's the lack of an interface that lets you organize things in whatever fashion makes sense.
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#70Is email really broken or are people looking for things to change? Reason I ask is because I see this "let's fix email" so often, peeps build something new then it either gets acquired & killed or goes no where. What if email isn't broken. Instead email as we think we see it is merely a feed with or without action and its up to us to manage it. PlainEmail appears like an attempt of changing our habits of reading a fe…
> What if email isn't broken.
I tend to agree. The problem is that we choose to spend our time in a suboptimal manner. The email inbox is just a tool that makes it easier to waste our time. It's not like getting rid of the email inbox will keep others from sending us stuff we don't want or keep our bosses from asking us to do crazy things. If you want to fix email, recognize that you can't respond to everything, and hit the delete button more often.