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Re: Show HN: I recently launched a new cloud hosting company

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Post by al2o3cr » Mon, Feb 01, 2016, 8:28 PM UTC

al2o3cr wrote: post #17

Marketing page copy: "Unlimited 1GB servers" FAQ when signed in: "Each plan has a maximum capacity for the amount of servers its allowed to create. Due to the significant amount of dedicated resources we provide, we can't literally give you unlimited servers. However, you could upgrade your plan whenever you'd like." So your marketing page is LITERALLY a lie. Good job.

Some additional info, for those who are curious. I can't provide any interpretation, but I figured my $9 could help somebody. :)

MotD: Welcome to Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.13.0-32-generic i686)

     * Documentation:  https://help.ubuntu.com/

      System information as of Mon Feb  1 14:14:55 EST 2016

      System load:  0.0               Processes:           86
      Usage of /:   4.5% of 18.32GB   Users logged in:     1
      Memory usage: 7%                IP address for eth0: 158.69.xxx.xxx
      Swap usage:   0%

      Graph this data and manage this system at:
        https://landscape.canonical.com/

    108 packages can be updated.
    95 updates are security updates.


    Your Hardware Enablement Stack (HWE) is supported until April 2017.

    Last login: Fri Jan 29 22:49:53 2016

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output of df:

    Filesystem                  1K-blocks   Used Available Use% Mounted on
    /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root  19213004 878460  17335532   5% /
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    none                           512636      0    512636   0% /run/shm
    /dev/sda1                      240972  32534    195997  15% /boot

Ownership info from nslookup for the IP range:

    RamGrid OVH-CUST-2158206 (NET-158-69-17-144-1) 158.69.17.144 - 158.69.17.159
    OVH Hosting, Inc. HO-2 (NET-158-69-0-0-1) 158.69.0.0 - 158.69.255.255

Re: Show HN: I recently launched a new cloud hosting company

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Post by USNetizen » Mon, Feb 01, 2016, 8:36 PM UTC

It seems a self-written description of the owner's "previous projects" include an FBI Takedown on one of them - and he's seemingly proud of it. This doesn't bode well for the legitimacy of the current venture:

"I know what you're thinking. FkPaying is a brand new way to watch movies, download books, and download music. I built out a really nice website that's very intuitive and user friendly. Yeah... if you're reading this, the website might have been taken down by the FBI. It was a good run, folks. I hope I don't get taken to jail for this."

Couple that with the overwhelming issues others have brought up here and I have doubts this is a serious business at all.

Re: Show HN: I recently launched a new cloud hosting company

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Post by tyingq » Mon, Feb 01, 2016, 8:40 PM UTC

al2o3cr wrote: post #61

al2o3cr wrote: post #17

Marketing page copy: "Unlimited 1GB servers" FAQ when signed in: "Each plan has a maximum capacity for the amount of servers its allowed to create. Due to the significant amount of dedicated resources we provide, we can't literally give you unlimited servers. However, you could upgrade your plan whenever you'd like." So your marketing page is LITERALLY a lie. Good job.

Some additional info, for those who are curious. I can't provide any interpretation, but I figured my $9 could help somebody . :) MotD: Welcome to Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.13.0-32-generic i686) * Documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/ System information as of Mon Feb 1 14:14:55 EST 2016 System load: 0.0 Processes: 86 Usage of /: 4.5% of 18.32GB Users logged in: 1 Memory usage: 7% IP address for eth0: 158.69.x…

So, a VPS on OVH hardware? You could save a little money by skipping the middleman :)

https://www.ovh.com/us/vps/vps-ssd.xml

Re: Show HN: I recently launched a new cloud hosting company

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Post by RIMR » Mon, Feb 01, 2016, 8:47 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #59

RIMR wrote: post #58

Christ, this is a total shitshow. Enjoy the free $9. Your service is unusable, so I'll never really be using it. It'll be the only $9 you ever get from me. My first step with any VPS is to run "sudo apt-get update". This generates a ton of checksum errors. I figured I would get around to that later, so I updated what I could. Then I tried to install Asterisk, but it appears that you stripped all the default repositor…

Morbid curiosity: you want to install and run Asterisk , the PBX software, on a $9 VPS from a provider that just announced with a Bootstrap template today?

It was cheap and Stripe is secure. I could part with $9 to play around with a potentially shitty service. I was going to run an instance of Lenny on Asterisk, so it's not like I was doing anything important with this.

Re: Show HN: I recently launched a new cloud hosting company

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Post by letcree » Mon, Feb 01, 2016, 8:49 PM UTC

It seems like they're just renting OVH dedicated servers (https://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/hosting/) and selling virtual machines on them. You could get cheaper pricing and more reliable servers by purchasing VPS from OVH directly, or going through a more reputable provider that resells OVH like My Custom Hosting or Luna Node.

Re: Show HN: I recently launched a new cloud hosting company

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Post by RIMR » Mon, Feb 01, 2016, 8:51 PM UTC

destroyer998 wrote: post #45

al2o3cr wrote: post #17

Marketing page copy: "Unlimited 1GB servers" FAQ when signed in: "Each plan has a maximum capacity for the amount of servers its allowed to create. Due to the significant amount of dedicated resources we provide, we can't literally give you unlimited servers. However, you could upgrade your plan whenever you'd like." So your marketing page is LITERALLY a lie. Good job.

When you click the refund link in the footer, you are presented with a page not found error: https://ramgrid.com/legal/refunds Is this supposed to be scam or a joke?

There's a service behind this, I can confirm it. I just wasted $9 on a broken VPS.

I am not worried about that $9 because I spent that expecting this to be a bust. I've spent far more on stupider things. It'll certainly be the last $9 I spend on this though.

Re: Show HN: I recently launched a new cloud hosting company

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Post by pavornyoh » Mon, Feb 01, 2016, 8:51 PM UTC

frik wrote: post #47

al2o3cr wrote: post #17

Marketing page copy: "Unlimited 1GB servers" FAQ when signed in: "Each plan has a maximum capacity for the amount of servers its allowed to create. Due to the significant amount of dedicated resources we provide, we can't literally give you unlimited servers. However, you could upgrade your plan whenever you'd like." So your marketing page is LITERALLY a lie. Good job.

It's a carbon copy of this template: http://themes.getbootstrap.com/products/marketing Even the pricing area and the footer text are 100% just a copy. There is certainly not functional hosting service behind that, but maybe it a vehicle to test the water and collect emails of potential customers...

It's a carbon copy of this template: http://themes.getbootstrap.com/products/marketing Even the pricing area and the footer text are 100% just a copy.

This is why I love HN. If it is not authentic, you quickly get found out. OP, why didn't you at least edit the page and make it your own?

Re: Show HN: I recently launched a new cloud hosting company

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Post by USNetizen » Mon, Feb 01, 2016, 8:52 PM UTC

smt88 wrote: post #50

destroyer998 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you click the refund link in the footer, you are presented with a page not found error: https://ramgrid.com/legal/refunds Is this supposed to be scam or a joke?

Edit: I take it back. It seems to be serious and not just a test. I found the creator's LinkedIn.[1] Previous comment: Probably a landing page to test a concept before the concept is developed. It's done frequently, but this person has done it rather sloppily. 1. https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasondecastro

From a self-written description of his previous project:

"I know what you're thinking. FkPaying is a brand new way to watch movies, download books, and download music. I built out a really nice website that's very intuitive and user friendly. Yeah... if you're reading this, the website might have been taken down by the FBI. It was a good run, folks. I hope I don't get taken to jail for this."

Yeah, seems proud of being taken down by the FBI. I'm not really comfortable with people that take such pride in pushing the limits of the law and it doesn't bode well for the reputation of this current venture.

Re: Show HN: I recently launched a new cloud hosting company

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Post by autotune » Mon, Feb 01, 2016, 9:02 PM UTC

pavornyoh wrote: post #67

frik wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a carbon copy of this template: http://themes.getbootstrap.com/products/marketing Even the pricing area and the footer text are 100% just a copy. There is certainly not functional hosting service behind that, but maybe it a vehicle to test the water and collect emails of potential customers...

It's a carbon copy of this template: http://themes.getbootstrap.com/products/marketing Even the pricing area and the footer text are 100% just a copy. This is why I love HN. If it is not authentic, you quickly get found out. OP, why didn't you at least edit the page and make it your own?

This isn't specific to HN, you get the same thing on various subreddits on reddit (e.g. /r/science and /r/technology), and probably the same thing on any technically-oriented community forum that discusses new or any tech. HN is great but let's not start a circlejerk around a common feature of any strong community.

Re: Show HN: I recently launched a new cloud hosting company

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Post by CM30 » Mon, Feb 01, 2016, 9:09 PM UTC

BorisMelnik wrote: post #35

al2o3cr wrote: post #17

Marketing page copy: "Unlimited 1GB servers" FAQ when signed in: "Each plan has a maximum capacity for the amount of servers its allowed to create. Due to the significant amount of dedicated resources we provide, we can't literally give you unlimited servers. However, you could upgrade your plan whenever you'd like." So your marketing page is LITERALLY a lie. Good job.

but isn't it the same with Amazon and all these other "unlimited backup" solutions? They are all literally a lie if you dig deep enough...some cases more deep than others.

Yep. It's a hosting cliche at this point, it's never really unlimited, it's almost almost overselling with a small note in the terms and conditions saying that some nebulous resource limit applies.

It's pretty well known over at Web Hosting Talk. It's one of the reasons services by a certain notorious company called EIG have a poor reputation.

Doesn't make it any more ethical to do it here though. The hosting business may be filled to the brim with sleazy companies and dodgy deals, but you don't need to do likewise in order to become successful.