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Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal

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Post by cieplik »

Aeolun wrote: post #173
alokedesai wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, this is a known issue, unfortunately--but it's definitely something we want to fix as we improve Warp. See more information here where we chat with Casey about it: https://twitter.com/zachlloydtweets/status/14175482714432348...

> we should generally be at, or near, the performance of Alacritty > evidence that it’s not > Yeah, this is a known issue I don’t want to be critical, but which is it? If you know you are not anywhere near the performance, why say you are?

Hey - that's a good point. The thing about terminal benchmarks is that there are many of them, each focusing on a different aspect and producing different results. There's one by alacritty team[1] that we used in our initial tests[2], there's another ones mentioned in the comments above etc. When using vtbench, Warp performed much better than iterm, for example.

Ideally we'd ace all of them, but we're not there yet. Anecdotally, many of our users mention speed/performance improvements over other terminal apps a lot in our Discord!

[1] https://github.com/alacritty/vtebench [2] https://www.warp.dev/blog/how-warp-works

Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal

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Post by zhengt »

losvedir wrote: post #514

As someone who uses the terminal a lot and is not allergic to closed source tools or even telemetry necessarily, I'd be in your target market, I think. But one thing that your landing page has left me confused about: you have two examples like this: cargo +stable fmt cargo +stable check cargo +stable tests/ presumably to show off multi-cursors. But in neither example does the person appear to hit "Enter", which is th…

Assuming you're on a shell that supports bracketed paste, it'll treat it as one block and execute all of the commands one after the other. The exit status will be that of the last command run.

Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal

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Post by wallfacer120 »

orastor wrote: post #20

Wanted to give it a shot but got disappointed when I launched it and the following happened: - Outgoing request to googleapis.com - Outgoing request to segment.io - Outgoing request to sentry.io - Requires sign up (only via Github, mind you) I understand the first request is probably to get some dynamic configuration, even though I'd rather my terminal ship with static configuration. But then you have segment and sen…

What is your tool of choice for intercepting outgoing requests like this?

Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal

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Post by zhengt »

atonse wrote: post #516
zhengt wrote: post #423

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi - Warp engineer here! Fully understand your disappointment and hesitation. The terminal is totally free for individuals. The general philosophy is that we would never charge for anything a terminal currently does. So no paywalls around SSH or anything like that. You're totally right in that the collaborative/audit features are a good fit for being paid features. Our business model will be around charging companies…

I actually have no issue with free/paid. It’s the login requirement that’s bothering me. But you’re saying that’s the part that’s used by telemetry?

Right now, login is required while we're in Open Beta.

When we GA, login will be opt-in (although you'd lose some of our cooler features).

Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal

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Post by hestefisk »

orastor wrote: post #20

Wanted to give it a shot but got disappointed when I launched it and the following happened: - Outgoing request to googleapis.com - Outgoing request to segment.io - Outgoing request to sentry.io - Requires sign up (only via Github, mind you) I understand the first request is probably to get some dynamic configuration, even though I'd rather my terminal ship with static configuration. But then you have segment and sen…

Not touching it with a 10-foot pole.

Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal

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Post by [deleted] »

munro wrote: post #35

> Telemetry > When Warp comes out of beta, telemetry will be opt-in and anonymous. > But for our beta phase, we do send telemetry by default and we do associate it with the logged in user because it makes it much easier to reach out and get feedback when something goes wrong. This is a hard pass for me, it looks really amazing though. I'm so tired of telemetry, how do we quit our day jobs to focus on open source? ;-;

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Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal

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Post by zhengt »

999900000999 wrote: post #346

Like almost everyone else, I really want to like this product. I imagine if it was open source, didn't have a bunch of strange network calls built in, and most importantly a third party audited the source code to make sure you're not doing anything wrong, then I'd be open to trying it. The issue here is you have a black box, which will have complete control over my system. I have no idea what happens the moment I giv…

Hi - Warp engineer here. Totally understand your skepticism and hesitation.

Regarding open source, we want to do it for parts and potentially all of the code. We plan to open-source our extension points as we go. You can read more about this here https://github.com/warpdotdev/Warp/discussions/400.

We have also talked internally about having penetration testing.

As for our business model, the terminal is totally free for individuals and we want to make a terminal so useful for individuals that their companies will want to pay for the team features.

The general philosophy is that we would never charge for anything a terminal currently does. So no paywalls around SSH or anything like that. The types of features we could eventually charge for are things that have a cost to us, for example enabling real-time terminal collaboration.

Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal

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Post by SLWW »

orastor wrote: post #20

Wanted to give it a shot but got disappointed when I launched it and the following happened: - Outgoing request to googleapis.com - Outgoing request to segment.io - Outgoing request to sentry.io - Requires sign up (only via Github, mind you) I understand the first request is probably to get some dynamic configuration, even though I'd rather my terminal ship with static configuration. But then you have segment and sen…

They have a "layman's terms" section where it states that for now, in beta, telemetry is going to be on regardless https://www.warp.dev/privacy

They promise that after beta you won't need Github, and telemetry will be optional.

Though imo this is just as easy to read and understand: https://assets-global.website-files.com/60352b1db5736ada4741...

Re: Show HN: Warp, a Rust-based terminal

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Post by lovemekonsole »

cercatrova wrote: post #112

If you want to use a terminal that is actually open source and doesn't have telemetry, much less only available via signing in with GitHub, use Alacritty, also written in Rust and cross platform. https://github.com/alacritty/alacritty

I use Konsole. It's written in I-dont-know-and-dont-give-a-shit-why-is-that-even-relevant.

It's free, does not spy on me, comes by default with Kubuntu and has great themes out of the box (including the Solarized themes).

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