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Re: Show HN: If YouTube had actual channels

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This is super fun, but I hope the content creators are being compensated. Content creators work hard to produce this content under the assumption they will be paid for it (in one of many different potential channels but the HOW is less relevant).

This is built using the official youtube api.

https://developers.google.com/youtube/iframe_api_reference

Re: Show HN: If YouTube had actual channels

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

WHY is there not an "I'm feeling lucky" button for streaming services. Akin to "give me anything," though, I suspect the answer is the more time spent scrolling, the less data has to be streamed over the wire, so it's cheaper.

More likely it is the inverse: Selecting a random video at scale is the costly problem. You can certainly fake it as a workaround. For example, you'll notice that "I'm feeling lucky" on Google simply follows the first search result. Streaming services could take what is already computed as the first result on the "Home" page and use that, for example. But at that point why not just click on the first video? Unlike Go…

That all makes sense and I never really considered the selection of the video being the costly problem at scale. Thanks!

The only response I have is that purposefully-clicking the 'random' button has a psychological effect over clicking the first video returned which (gut check) makes me think it will be more easily tolerated if it ends up being "off-beat" since I didn't explicitly click the first selection (thus choosing it).

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This is something I always wonder... Something that I really miss from TV on internet content (YouTube, movie streamings and so on) is turn it on and watching what's being transmitted without thinking about what I wanna see. Three reasons: 1. Picking something to watch takes time. Sometimes I only want to see something in the 15 minutes that I'm dining alone. My meal gets cold before I start the video 2. Choosing som…

> Sometimes I only want to see something in the 15 minutes that I'm dining alone. I think the YouTube recommendation algorithm you get from opening the app or viewing the front page is good for this. They have a lot of random content and when the algorithm gets to know you, it will suggest things of interest that can be consumed this way.

YT is the best choice for something random for a small amount of time, but is absolutely maimed at the free-tier by 2 leading ads requiring 1+ user interactions to skip.

I can't easily press 'skip' with a plate of pasta in one hand and a fork in another, and I don't want to watch two 2:30 leading ads, so I guess I'll just go somewhere else.

Re: Show HN: If YouTube had actual channels

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This is something I always wonder... Something that I really miss from TV on internet content (YouTube, movie streamings and so on) is turn it on and watching what's being transmitted without thinking about what I wanna see. Three reasons: 1. Picking something to watch takes time. Sometimes I only want to see something in the 15 minutes that I'm dining alone. My meal gets cold before I start the video 2. Choosing som…

Why are you stressed about what to select, when it is guaranteed that any selection you make will be better than something a network would select for you to watch? Just pick anything.

Cause the energy spent paying attention to the show is non-zero, and ideally I get _some_ enrichment out of what I watch.

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Am I the only child of the 80s that hates this? A bunch of stuff I'm not interested in, and then I switched off. The moment TiVo was available we had it in our house and it was great. I still like the occasional shared experience of big sporting events or Eurovision or something on broadcast TV, but outside that it's just the equivalent of doomscrolling. If you look at your plethora of streaming options today and can…

I'm a child of the 80s too and I haven't watched TV in a decade, save for the occasional TV in hotel room. I do miss the luxury of occasionally having what you watch already decided for you and the serendipity of discovering something engaging by accident. Lately it has started to feel like all the choices we have in modern life and the decision paralysis that entails is causing more not less stress. I'd hazard the biggest problem with the old format was not so much the lack of control as the lack of quality content and paradoxically having too much choice with the explosion of cable tv channels. I think there's space for a refined version of something like this to coexist with all the modern options - something like a personalized curator that picks quality content tailored to your tastes and just plays it without you having to decide exactly what to watch beyond flipping (a limited number of) channels.

Re: Show HN: If YouTube had actual channels

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The author was replying to everyone, even me, but didn’t respond to my question about how the list is made. This makes me assume that it’s hand-made. If so, it’ll probably get 1 or 2 updates (if even that many) and then remain static as the creator loses interest. Wouldn’t be the first time. EDIT: list has changed. Trying to track it, we'll see what happens. I really hope the author has some way to search Youtube for…

Again, if I am allowed to dream, we can have a community around the exchange of these list files.

The possibilities are endless. You can build a site that lets any user create their own personalized tv with content from any streaming provider that has an api. This can be done in a few hours literally. And you don't even have to host them since it's all client side javascript. Honestly if I weren't so busy with my own project I would consider contacting OP to see what we could do with this.

Re: Show HN: If YouTube had actual channels

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I'd echo the sentiment that this is amazing, and that a TV guide would be awesome. I'd also suggest maybe adding the channel names (like the comment you posted here) to the app itself (although i think it's cool when it's unnamed and you get the old-school feeling of channels just being numbers). Also, I'd love to have permalinks for the channels. Not for the individual videos themselves, but just a link that when sh…

I had youtube TV for a while and the most annoying thing is that there were no channel numbers.

Interesting, This is apparently a TikTok-like scroller for youtube channel content, which they should have done natively many years ago...

I suspect they never did this because they never wanted to make YouTube compete directly with cable TV. YouTube content is displayed in a drab click-click UI because they want users to not scroll deeper for the content that isn't sponsored (paid) all the way to the front pages.

The UI of YouTube hasn't changed in essence for ages, it's still page based with only a few (shrinking) trending lists.

I think the reason they do that is because it allows them to control what is prominently displayed across YouTube -- The same concept is used across most social apps, where there are few features for discovering new content. The pages display embarrassing low view metrics on non-sponsored accounts, even when they may have really great content, it's really a backwards way of controlling what trends, and subsequently what makes money for the platform and sponsored creators.

If real choice was allowed on most of these platforms, we'd see literally endless (new) options for interesting new content on a wider variety of topics from creators none of us know, but right now, with shrinking choice, we only see manufactured and heavily co-opted content creators like Mr. Beast, Kai Cenat, Joe Budden, Pewdie Pie, (etc)-- they are usually sanitized, coached, & trained personalities picked based on who sponsors them and based on what makes the most ad profit for the platform. Most of that content seems to be very rigged and fake to me, as they clearly have staff working out of view. I find most of that manufactured (Picked YouTube Influencer) content to be drab and over-scripted... I can't stand watching it on & off YouTube personally.

Interesting channel scroller... The way it plays content also seems to look far more lively than watching YouTube on the regular site for some reason. I'd love to easily see the option to customize what is displayed based on the YouTube channels I already follow, and links back to subscribe to channel content I like while watching. A feed for specifically music-related content (by genre maybe) would be highly useful.

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