On a related note, here's a comparison between Apple's San Francisco and Google's Roboto, along with FF DIN and Helvetica: http://www.fontshop.de/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/comparison...
Show HN: Typedetail.com – featuring Apple's new typeface San Francisco
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Re: Show HN: Typedetail.com – featuring Apple's new typeface San Francisco
#52This is a ridiculously incomplete sample sheet. Most of the iOS, OS X, and Watch OS users will need to display characters outside the non-accented English alphabet. Nerding out about minute-to-nonexistent differences from Helvetica is cute, but how will it actually look in real-life application?! Way to miss the point.
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Re: Show HN: Typedetail.com – featuring Apple's new typeface San Francisco
#53This is a ridiculously incomplete sample sheet. Most of the iOS, OS X, and Watch OS users will need to display characters outside the non-accented English alphabet. Nerding out about minute-to-nonexistent differences from Helvetica is cute, but how will it actually look in real-life application?! Way to miss the point.
There aren't that many fonts that supports 10's of thousands of glyphs and most of those just reuse from a standard set.
Re: Show HN: Typedetail.com – featuring Apple's new typeface San Francisco
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's ugly about it? It doesn't even seem interesting or different enough from anything else to call it beautiful or ugly.
It is reminiscent of German industrial typeface DIN [1], which looks stylish in certain contexts (advertising), but arguably too stylish and cold for general use. An OS font will be used for everything from obituaries to love letters. Helvetica is a horrible screen font [2], but, unlike San Francisco, it doesn't impose a certain mood on text. (On the other hand, SF's readability kicks Helvetica's ass, so at the end o…
Re: Show HN: Typedetail.com – featuring Apple's new typeface San Francisco
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is reminiscent of German industrial typeface DIN [1], which looks stylish in certain contexts (advertising), but arguably too stylish and cold for general use. An OS font will be used for everything from obituaries to love letters. Helvetica is a horrible screen font [2], but, unlike San Francisco, it doesn't impose a certain mood on text. (On the other hand, SF's readability kicks Helvetica's ass, so at the end o…
I think this is a case of https://xkcd.com/915/
Re: Show HN: Typedetail.com – featuring Apple's new typeface San Francisco
#56Is it OK to say the emperor has no clothes? I think this is an ugly, clumsy typeface, designed primarily for legibility in a particular small application (the watch). Now it's now rumored to be destined as the system font in 10.11. Going from graceful, readable Lucida to ok-only-in-Retina-but-even-then-hard-to-read-and-overused Helvetica to this new San Francisco is just plain frustrating. Maybe readability trumps ta…
I'm with you, I think it's hideous. And it's not, as another commenter wrote, just the fact that we're seeing a new font replacing an old one in a particular context. I haven't seen this new font in the wild — just on the spec page — and I still thought "Surely no-one's putting their name to this…"
Re: Show HN: Typedetail.com – featuring Apple's new typeface San Francisco
#57This is a ridiculously incomplete sample sheet. Most of the iOS, OS X, and Watch OS users will need to display characters outside the non-accented English alphabet. Nerding out about minute-to-nonexistent differences from Helvetica is cute, but how will it actually look in real-life application?! Way to miss the point.
Given that the majority of HN is an English-speaking audience, it's all that most folks need.
Re: Show HN: Typedetail.com – featuring Apple's new typeface San Francisco
#58Re: Show HN: Typedetail.com – featuring Apple's new typeface San Francisco
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is reminiscent of German industrial typeface DIN [1], which looks stylish in certain contexts (advertising), but arguably too stylish and cold for general use. An OS font will be used for everything from obituaries to love letters. Helvetica is a horrible screen font [2], but, unlike San Francisco, it doesn't impose a certain mood on text. (On the other hand, SF's readability kicks Helvetica's ass, so at the end o…
What am I supposed to see in [2] exactly? All of these fonts are perfectly readable at small size.
Re: Show HN: Typedetail.com – featuring Apple's new typeface San Francisco
#60That's not the San Francisco font I remember... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_%281984_typeface%...